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Appeals Court Finds "Nuremberg Files" Site Unlawful

Greplaw writes "The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled this evening that an anti-abortion website that featured "wanted" posters of various abortion doctors constituted a "true threat." The website, called The Nuremberg Files, is therefore not protected by the First Amendment and is illegal under a 1994 law prohibiting threats against abortion doctors. The full opinion of the court is available on Findlaw. This case marks one of the first times that a website has been ruled to constitute such a threat." Our previous story has the background on the case. The District Court found the website was an unlawful threat; a three-judge panel of the Appeals court found that it wasn't; and now the entire Appeals court has found, by a 6-5 vote, that it was indeed unlawful. The case could be appealed to the Supreme Court next. The accepted definition of a threat unprotected by the First Amendment is one which "on its face and in the circumstances in which it is made is so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate and specific as to the person threatened, as to convey a gravity of purpose and imminent prospect of execution", and there is considerable dissent among the judges over whether a website can or cannot meet that standard.

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  1. Re:Regardless of your views on abortion.... by ObviousGuy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    As long as I'm not slug food. I hate slugs.

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  2. Re:Regardless of your views on abortion.... by ChadN · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Hey, I pray for people's death all the time. A study should be made to see if this has an effect on those people's health.

    (Not posting as an AC because I don't like to hide; but I recognize this should be a +0 post; do your worst, moderators)

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  3. Re:They deserve it. by countach · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Oh, the poor oppressed murderers need our compassion, give me a break.

    I actually, see nothing on that web site advocating taking the law into your own hands. It just says they should be tried like Goebles, which is spot on.

  4. Re:Mass Control by phunhippy · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Morals can exist without the writings of thousands of years old dead men.

    Wasn't Mose's(sp?) 11th Commandment:
    Thou shall not SPAM!

    hehe sorry.. had to..

  5. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ...my butt itches.

  6. Re:They deserve it. by Qrlx · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    such as the caution of electing to terminate a pregnancy when you are faced with the reality that you do not have the financial resources or maturity to responsibly raise a child.

    You can't just walk into an abortion clinic nine months pregnant and get an abortion, by the way. As the Supreme Court dictated in Roe v. Wade, abortion in the first trimester is acceptable, abortion in the last trimester is unacceptable, and the second trimester is kind of a grey area. It gets more detailed, like when the health of the mother is at risk, but basically that sums it up.

    It would be nice if, once in my life, I could debate this with someone who doesn't need to make references to various nazis or dumpsters full of body parts when presenting their case. (not that you are that kind of person pnatural, it's just a general complaint.)

  7. Re:It Is Threat and Should Not Be Protected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.

  8. Re:What this really means about our rights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath...

  9. Re:Learn to spell, yankees. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.......

  10. Re:What would this lead to? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet..

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.

  11. Re:Uh, right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet...

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.

  12. Re:Regardless of your views on abortion.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet...

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath...

  13. Re:These people are crazy.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath!

  14. Re:i'm not trying to change your mind on abortion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath!!!!

  15. Re:charge the nut with murder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman??

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.

  16. Re:whois contact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath!!!

  17. Re:Same old web problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.............

  18. Is abortion truly good? Could we have been wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman??

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child??

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.

  19. Re:Advocating Murder.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.........

  20. Re:new update: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath!!!!!!!

  21. Re:good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    If you make your living killing human beings, you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone comes to kill you. If you believe that murder is a valid CHOICE, then you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone makes the CHOICE to kill you. Though I do not condone the murder of anyone, even murderers, the people who do kill abortion doctors demonstrate clearly the hyocricy of the abortion doctors: they make their living by killing and then desire not to themselves be killed.

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath...

  22. Re:GOOD!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    If you make your living killing human beings, you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone comes to kill you. If you believe that murder is a valid CHOICE, then you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone makes the CHOICE to kill you. Though I do not condone the murder of anyone, even murderers, the people who do kill abortion doctors demonstrate clearly the hyocricy of the abortion doctors: they make their living by killing and then desire not to themselves be killed.

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet!!!!!

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.

  23. Re:considerable dissent ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    If you make your living killing human beings, you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone comes to kill you. If you believe that murder is a valid CHOICE, then you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone makes the CHOICE to kill you. Though I do not condone the murder of anyone, even murderers, the people who do kill abortion doctors demonstrate clearly the hyocricy of the abortion doctors: they make their living by killing and then desire not to themselves be killed.

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet!!!!

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.

  24. Re:Accomplice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    If you make your living killing human beings, you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone comes to kill you. If you believe that murder is a valid CHOICE, then you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone makes the CHOICE to kill you. Though I do not condone the murder of anyone, even murderers, the people who do kill abortion doctors demonstrate clearly the hyocricy of the abortion doctors: they make their living by killing and then desire not to themselves be killed.

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet!!!

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.

  25. Re:No Free Speech for the Enemies of the People by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    If you make your living killing human beings, you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone comes to kill you. If you believe that murder is a valid CHOICE, then you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone makes the CHOICE to kill you. Though I do not condone the murder of anyone, even murderers, the people who do kill abortion doctors demonstrate clearly the hyocricy of the abortion doctors: they make their living by killing and then desire not to themselves be killed.

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath......

  26. Re:Torn! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    If you make your living killing human beings, you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone comes to kill you. If you believe that murder is a valid CHOICE, then you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone makes the CHOICE to kill you. Though I do not condone the murder of anyone, even murderers, the people who do kill abortion doctors demonstrate clearly the hyocricy of the abortion doctors: they make their living by killing and then desire not to themselves be killed.

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath!!!!

  27. Re:Glad to hear it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    If you make your living killing human beings, you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone comes to kill you. If you believe that murder is a valid CHOICE, then you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone makes the CHOICE to kill you. Though I do not condone the murder of anyone, even murderers, the people who do kill abortion doctors demonstrate clearly the hyocricy of the abortion doctors: they make their living by killing and then desire not to themselves be killed.

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet!!!

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath!!

  28. Re:The bottom line: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    If you make your living killing human beings, you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone comes to kill you. If you believe that murder is a valid CHOICE, then you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone makes the CHOICE to kill you. Though I do not condone the murder of anyone, even murderers, the people who do kill abortion doctors demonstrate clearly the hyocricy of the abortion doctors: they make their living by killing and then desire not to themselves be killed.

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.......

  29. Re:The bottom line: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    If you make your living killing human beings, you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone comes to kill you. If you believe that murder is a valid CHOICE, then you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone makes the CHOICE to kill you. Though I do not condone the murder of anyone, even murderers, the people who do kill abortion doctors demonstrate clearly the hyocricy of the abortion doctors: they make their living by killing and then desire not to themselves be killed.

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath. 1

  30. Re:The slavers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Where was the Bible mentioned a single time in my post?

    Anti-Slavery = Anti-Abortion = Anti-Holocaust

    Pro-Slavery = Pro-Abortion = Pro-Holocaust

    Religion has nothing to do with it. There are relgious people who support slavery, abortion, and the Holocaust, and there are religious people who oppose them. There are non-religious people who support slavery, abortion, and the holocaust, and there are non-religious people who oppose them.

    Please show me one single reference I made to religion in my original post. Please show me one.

  31. Re:The bottom line: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    If you make your living killing human beings, you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone comes to kill you. If you believe that murder is a valid CHOICE, then you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone makes the CHOICE to kill you. Though I do not condone the murder of anyone, even murderers, the people who do kill abortion doctors demonstrate clearly the hyocricy of the abortion doctors: they make their living by killing and then desire not to themselves be killed.

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.

    2

  32. Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Forcing "back-alley" abortions are good. Someone who tries to get an abortion DESERVES to die. If a woman dies because of an unsanitary abortion, that'll hopefully deter other women from getting abortions. Any "doctor" who performs an abortion isn't legally a doctor anyway because he has violated the Hippocratic Oath.

  33. Re:Regardless of your views on abortion.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    If you make your living killing human beings, you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone comes to kill you. If you believe that murder is a valid CHOICE, then you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone makes the CHOICE to kill you. Though I do not condone the murder of anyone, even murderers, the people who do kill abortion doctors demonstrate clearly the hyocricy of the abortion doctors: they make their living by killing and then desire not to themselves be killed.

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.

    4

  34. Re:Glad to hear it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you saw a woman being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the woman was to kill the rapist, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil man to save an innocent woman?

    If you saw a young child being raped, mutilated, and murdered, and the only way to save the child was to kill the murderer, would you do it? Would you end the life of an evil adult to save an innocent child?

    You must either answer "no" to both questions or "yes" to both questions. Which is it?

    If you make your living killing human beings, you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone comes to kill you. If you believe that murder is a valid CHOICE, then you have NO RIGHT to complain when someone makes the CHOICE to kill you. Though I do not condone the murder of anyone, even murderers, the people who do kill abortion doctors demonstrate clearly the hyocricy of the abortion doctors: they make their living by killing and then desire not to themselves be killed.

    When slavery was flourishing in the United States, it was legal to beat, mutilate, rape, and even kill slaves, because legally blacks were not human. The pro-lifers protested against slavery, especially the rampant rape and abuse of slaves and the notion that blacks were not human beings. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one! My property, my business! Get your values off my plantation!"

    During the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, it was completely legal (and encouraged) to beat, maim, murder, mutilate, rape, and kill Jews and other racial minorities, because legally Jews were not human. The pro-lifers protested against the Holocaust, and tried to stop the legalized murder of millions of Jews. The anti-lifers replied, "If you don't like killing Jews, don't kill one! My gas chamber, my business! Get your values out of my concentration camp!"

    The pro-lifers won by ending slavery in the United States.

    The pro-lifers won by ending the Holocaust in Nazi Germany.

    The pro-lifers ALWAYS win, eventually.

    On 9/11/2001, several thousand Americans were murdered by terrorists. On 9/11/2001, several thousand American children were murdered by doctors. Unlike the terrorist attack, it happened again on 9/12/2001, 9/13/2001, 9/14/2001, and it's been happening every day since then. The equivalent of the WTC/Pentagon attack happens each day, every day, over and over again every single day, just in the United States alone (if you consider worldwide statistics, SEVERAL 9/11's happen every day at the hands of doctors), and it has been happening for years and years and years.

    If you do not want to get pregnant, exercise your choice not to have sex. If you get pregnant but can't or don't want to care for the child, leave the child at a hospital or police station where he/she will be cared for until they find a loving home for him/her. If you DO want a child, don't get pregnant: find a pregnant woman who is considering an abortion and tell her that you will take her child once he/she is born as well as paying all her expenses.

    Did you know that nearly every doctor in the world, in order to become a doctor, swears the Hippocratic Oath? Did you know that the Hippocratic Oath specifically prohibits performing abortion? Did you know that breaking an Oath was once considered one of the most cowardly and ignoble things a person could do? "Oathbreaker" was once the greatest slur you could levy against a person, but now, the integrity of a man's word is no longer valued. Truth is seen as, at best, an inconvenience.

    Every doctor who performs an abortion is an Oathbreaker, and has violated the Oath which made him a doctor. Thus, anyone who performs an abortion is NOT a doctor. It is illegal for someone who isn't a doctor to perform medical procedures. Abortion is a medical procedure. Therefore, anyone who performs an abortion is in violation of the law forbidding non-doctors to practice medicine.

    Abortion is already illegal, the courts just don't realize it yet.

    Perhaps it should be called the Hypocritic Oath.

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