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Sun Drops Sawfish for Metacity

Cardhore writes: "According to this article, Sun's and Wipro's developers are now working on Metacity, instead of Sawfish. Metacity and Sawfish are two window managers for the GNOME desktop, and Sun has decided to use Metacity over Sawfish for GNOME 2. This decision has been based on issues such as accessibility, maintainability of the code [1], documentation, multi-head support and a general eagerness from the community to commit to Metacity in the future." Here's a brief description of Garret LeSage's experience with Metacity, which is described here as a "boring window manager for the adult in you." Anyone with Metacity screenshots, please post below :)

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  1. Multihead support? by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Funny, I thought the multihead support was relatively bad. I've got metacity installed on Debian unstable. It seems to map windows more or less at random, frequently split between my two monitors.

    I do like the way metacity places dialog boxes though. They are placed horizontally centered and just below the top of their parent window, somewhat like a MacOS X dialog.

  2. Reason for the switch. by Hornsby · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just grokked this off of the gnome mailing list here.

    > Btw: Why there has not been any updates for sawfish lately?

    Rumor has it that John was employed by Apple and that as part of the employment contract he's no longer allowed to develop sawfish.


    So there you have it! Before you start flaming back and forth about what's better, think about the logistics behind using a WM that's no longer being maintained.

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  3. I use it... by JanneM · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I started using metacity two weeks ago or so, and I'm fairly pleased. I really liked sawfish, but felt it was time to try something new.

    Pro: easy to set up (not a whole lot of options to choose from, really), fast (much speedier than sawfish), and largely with sensible defaults for everything.

    Con: I miss a few settings, like the ability to remember window size and position. Also, lazy focus only changes focus and does not raise the newly focused window.

    On the whole, a good, solid windowmanager that really feels lean and efficient.

    /Janne

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  4. Re:Thank the submitter by ergo98 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A while back Slashdot started linking any potentially unfamilar terms to everything2, however this raised the ire of several who felt that this was an abuse of the Everything2 service (which didn't make an awful lot of sense as that's specifically what the service is for)

  5. Re:Virtual Desktops by Burdell · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't want to get involved in any window manager wars, but you can do
    this in sawfish; it just isn't in the default key bindings.

    Either go into the sawfish configurator and select "Bindings" or choose
    "Shortcuts" from the sawfish window manager menu. Click "Add", and add

    C-Right bound to "Move viewport right"
    C-Left bound to "Move viewport left"
    C-Up bound to "Move viewport up"
    C-Down bound to "Move viewport down"

    I used to use that all the time in fvwm, but now I typically just use

    M-TAB bound to "Cycle windows"
    M-ISO_Left_Tab bound to "Cycle windows backwards"

    and go from window to window (I don't have _too_ many windows, and I
    tend to remember which one is where in the stacking order and can get
    there quickly).

  6. None of this makes sense! by X-Nc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I really wish I could get someone from Sun and IBM and all other vendors who use CDE to look at XFce. XFce is better, stronger and faster than GNOME (and KDE, for that matter) and can easily look and feel just like CDE for those who want that. It can also look and feel like nothing else out there. The Muntihead capabilities are better than anything on the market (to include WinXX and OS X). The speed of this thing can only be matched by things like twm or IceWM get it is a full, complete desktop environment. It just seems like a complete waste of time and effort to try and build something that will, at best, only be a shadow of something that is already here.

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  7. Re:translucent windows and other nonsense by scotch · · Score: 3, Interesting
    MS window managements sucks compared to any X window manager for one reason: an application on MS Windows is responsible for doing window management - if the application hangs, you can't move the window or minimize it. This has been true for as long as I can remember up through at least Win2000. Bad design, IMO.

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