Slashdot Mirror


Pop-Under Ads Patented

gopherdata writes "The Oregonian is running a article about a company, Exit Exchange, that claims to have invented the pop-under ad and is currently in the process of patenting it. According to the article the company hopes to collect royalties from other companies using pop-under ads. Are two lines of javascript worthy of a patent?" On the other hand, this is one stupid patent I'd love to see held up, just so that the licensing fees could discourage advertisers from attacking their potential clients.

5 of 320 comments (clear)

  1. What a great extortion scheme! by Software · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Exit Exchange is taking advantage of a recent change to patent law that enables it to seek royalties from companies for using its technology even before its patent is granted.
    I can attempt to extort companies for royalty payments for patents that may not be granted? Sign me up! Do I have to refund the payments if the patent is not granted? What a scam!
  2. Re:The best patent ever! by phyxeld · · Score: 5, Interesting

    this will set a horrible precedent.
    Um, it's already been set. Have you seen the kind of patents being handed out recently? Like the one on slashdot a couple weeks ago for using text and images on a webpage for commerce?

    How many other things then could be patened? Links?
    They're working on that.

    Seriously, I think this is kind of funny. The more silly patents that get granted, the more irrelevant our patent system becomes... Ditto for copyright law. It's a joke, and becoming more of one all the time.

    I like how google jokes on their lab site: Please email us your ideas, comments, suggestions, and patent infringement notices or post a message on the newsgroup for the particular demo you're referencing. (emphasis mine)

    Btw, interested persons might enjoy checking out that labs.google.com site (thanks to k10k for the link..)

    --
    __
    Choose mnemonic identifiers. If you can't remember what mnemonic means, you've got a problem. - Larry Wall
  3. Out of control by Arandir · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Patents have gotten out of control. I am not the world's biggest GNU fan, but in this area I am in full agreement with Richard Stallman. Software patents (along with any patents on algorithms, processes or methodologies) are absolutely despicable.

    I don't know who to blame more, the filers for inhuman audacity, or the USPTO for criminal negligence.

    We just got hit by a stunner at work today. One of our competitors (number three in the market) has disclosed a patent for a configuration utility identical to the one we (number one in the market) have had for six years. A configuration utility! There's obvious prior art. It's obvious to anyone in the field. And the only innovation they showed was copying verbatum our name for the utility. How much do you want to bet that our company is going to roll over and license this "technology" from our competitor?

    The sad part is that patents have become necessary to protect yourselves against other people with patents. No matter how much you abhore them, they're your only defense against those that don't. It's the IP version of Mutually Assured Destruction.

    A patent for pop-under ads doesn't suprise me. Nothing surprises me any more. I've been told flat out at work "let's have a brainstorming session and come up with some new patents." I don't have any yet. I fear that I'll be fired if I don't come up with any disclosable ideas soon. Is there any market out there for software engineers that don't believe in software patents?

    --
    A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
  4. Re:This is worse than a software patent... by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No, I don't think so. Your example was a re-design of an existing product. These folks didn't even do that. The 'focus' method in javascript was designed to put windows in the front or back. They just decided to use that method. It's like saying "HTML will let us put as many options as we want in a pull-down menu. Hmmm...our menu has 27 items. Let's patent the 27-item menu." Or, it's like patenting the "Close This Window" link found at the bottom of many secondary web pages. It's just a common-sense use of some programming commands.

    --


    Evil is the money of root.
  5. The reason you still see pop-under ads by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Yes, they are annoying. However, internet advertising is very scientific. An internet advertiser can make a change, such as trying a pop-under or a pop-up or a banner, or changing wording, or whatever, and in a couple of hours have plenty of data. They can run a mix of different things. They have people with degrees in math and statistics analyzing the data.

    Bottom line? They can quickly figure out what works, and what doesn't. So, when you see something stupid and annoying and wonder how the heck they can get away with offending people...it's because they've got numbers that prove that it works.

    It really is like something out of those science fiction stories where big brother adjusts the propoganda and policy in real time in response to instant opinion polls.