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Microsoft Battles Free Software at Pentagon
Spirit of Ishmael writes "The May 22 Washington Post is running a story under the headline Microsoft Fights Free Software at Pentagon. According to the story: 'Microsoft Corp. is aggressively lobbying the Pentagon to squelch its growing use of freely distributed computer software and switch to proprietary systems such as those sold by the software giant, according to officials familiar with the campaign.'"
Quoth the article:
Jonathan Shapiro, who teaches computer science at Johns Hopkins University, said: "There is data that when the customer can inspect the code the vendor is more responsive. . . . Microsoft is in a very weak position to make this argument. Whose software is the largest, most consistent source of security flaws? It's Microsoft."
As ye sew, so shall ye reap, I guess.
This article was so full of typical Microsoft FUD, but it hit one or two points very clearly:
The Gub'ment is savin' your tax dollers by usin' that open source Linux thingy!
The next Slashdot story will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and slashdot the links early!
You have this software that you pay nothing for and that thousands of people around the world find bugs in, but you should BUY ours because we obscure our bugs and only we know how this software works...???
Good grief, was it not less than two days ago that Microsoft claimed they could never release the APIs for Windows out of fear for the damage it would do to National Security? I would like to think that the cryptanalysts at the Dept of Defense would be fully versed in the fallacy of Security through Obscurity, and would make their voices heard.
What has me truly amazed is that Microsoft is now fighting against the world. Think about it... most companies battle their competitors. Microsoft has become so big and rich that they no longer have any individual competitors. The "competition" consists of people who do good things, often for free. God forbid the government give money to people who do good things.
And, of course open source is un-American! In the sense that "American" implies elitist, exclusive, arrogant, and imperialistic.
He looked at me and said, "Kid, we don't like your kind, and we're gonna send your fingerprints off to Washington."
Nothing at all, of course! It is perfectly normal and acceptable for companies, especially in a troubled economy, to pare back and focus on their core competencies. The Post article is irresponsibly making a fuss over Microsoft leveraging two of its well-demonstrated core competencies: lying to the government and subverting democracy. These essential skills are central to Microsoft's operation, and it's an abuse of free speech to present them as something dangerous -- worse, it might panic the consumers!
Unquestionably, it is "idiotic and inflammatory", as you point out, for the newspaper of record in our nation's capital to report on these perfectly normal goings-on. The matter of which development efforts are funded by our tax monies has no bearing whatsoever on the public interest. It may be safely left up to our trusted government agencies and their staunch allies in large corporations and special interest groups.
After all, what would we commoners have to tell them? They're the experts, and should be left to run the military and the government without any bother from us civilians. And under our sacred and inviolable system of government, power vests in the State, its Employees, and its Contractors -- not in the unwashed masses. For a so-called "newspaper" to "inform" us about the government's activities is nothing short of treason.
Go with the lowest bidder?
How does M$ expect to beat free?
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Unix is very user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are.
Free software is their competition. Next thing you know people like Alan Cox might speak to them about the benifits of open source. My god, how evil!
If Lockheed and Boeing were in the midst of competing for a contract, one would not be suggesting the other be BANNED through legislation. Sure, the competition would be rough. Thing is, they would be competing on the merits of the product they were bidding on.
What is happening here is (to keep the metaphor a rolling) is Boeing is making the claim that Lockheed is making inferior products, and giving all the secrets to unfriendly nations. That to even consider doing business with Lockheed is equivalent to being an unAmerican communist. You're not for communism are you?
Despite what you make think, it is not a usual occurance to have one competitor try to get legislation passed to ban another. You require a special kind of arrogance to go that far.
The line must be drawn here. This far. No further.
I think the best reason to encourage Linux in the gov't is Microsoft's attempt to justify closed-source Yeahhh.. The software is so insecure that the source code must be kept top-secret, but it should absolutely be used in the government. I wonder if everyone in the government has to have a Passport account, too?
And hey--isn't MS currently at court for being over-eager? Going after the gov't after that just seems like a little kid who's just gotten a spanking going right back to the cookie jar.
-Sara
Mitre has been tight with the government since just about the dawn of time. They were one of the origionators of what became the internet. At this point, I doubt Mitre has much difficulty getting contracts, especially from the DoD, since they have such a long-standing relationship. I think it is significant, however, that Mitre is pushing Linux. That, even more so than IBM's efforts, tells me that Linux has made it to the big time.
Under capitalism man exploits man. Under communism it's the other way around.
Not too long ago, slashdot posted this article concerning the campaign in Peru to switch the government to free software. It had a point by point by point analysis of Microsofts FUD. I hope that somebody in the US government takes the time to think through the issue, rather then just giving in to corporate pressure. What would be even better would be to see one of our own senators or high appointed officials show that they understand the issue as well as Peruvian Congressman David Villanueva Nuñez. One can hope.
Yes, opposition doesn't prevent a firm from being a monopoly. Consider the railroads in the 1800s: they were opposed by many (mostly those that needed to ship goods,) but they were still monopolistic because users didn't have a real choice of transportation vendors. The railroads used similar tactics to those of Microsoft today (incompatible hardware/protocols, discriminatory pricing, and exclusive partnership agreements.) In addition to strong-arming their customer base, the railroads also hired private "security firms" to hassle their competitors and detractors, spent large sums of money to lobby congress.
A vigorous opposition doesn't mean you are not a monopoly, but it does mean that your days may be numbered.
At least with an open source system, they could have patched the code and moved on. But with the closed source Windows NT system, the USS Yorktown had to be towed into harbor and let the boys from Redmond check under the hood.
Thank God it was peacetime..
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
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If any of you follow the link provided and read the article, you'll find that the DoD is giving MS's advice exactly the (lack of) credence it's due. So before you piss yourself about supposed Bush Administration / MS collusion, just read it.
Huzzah, and thank God the good folks at the DoD are relying on solid data to make good decisions about the software used to protect the nation, and Damn MSFT for looking for growth opportunities in degrading national security by harrying them for needless proprietary expenditures & vague allusions to "legal problems".
Corporate competition is one thing, but I don't think I can say it any simpler than Keep the Fuck off our Gov't with your FUD. When it comes to the DoD, there's more at stake than your option portfolios.
The only tool you've got against psychosis is experience.
"a senior Microsoft Corp. executive [who] told a federal court last week that sharing information with competitors could damage national security and even threaten the U.S. war effort in Afghanistan. He later acknowledged that some Microsoft code was so flawed it could not be safely disclosed."
Which would be a national security threat?
And they wonder why the Pentagon is Doubtful?
It certainly doiesn't sound like something worthy of milspec regulations.
"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
From the article:
Among the most high-profile efforts is research funded by the National Security Agency to develop a more secure version of the open-source Linux operating system, which competes with Microsoft's Windows.
IANAProgrammer, but I think that if the good people working on the kernel would like to contribute in a huge, meaningful way to Linux AND to national security they could put their heads together and bang out an iron-clad version of Linux, contributing to the above project and developing a superior, open-source solution that could achieve three primary goals, all very desireable.
The only tool you've got against psychosis is experience.
Denning was one of the main professors pushing Clipper.
Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
By Microsoft lobbying hard to keep the department of defense using MS software, from a socio-political point of view? I mean, what better way to lobby congress or the judicial system to protect Microsoft from the law than to ensure Windows is used in critical national security functions? In fact, what better way to control government period than to ensure they use your software for their classified, even critically secret operations?
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And when they pay for software, the government isn't subsidizing the producer?
The government funded research on security is available to everyone - Microsoft included.
When they fund research on faster planes, only a few companies gain the benefit.
They aren't likely to stop doing either.
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Nothing a user of Microsoft software can do, developer or otherwise, can possibly obligate Microsoft in the slightest. It's impossible. As impossible as trying to come up with a scenario where I somehow create a legal obligation for you based on the posting you just created.
I can make a derivative work with your posting and try to Open Content it, but all the means is that I had no right to Open Content your post in the first place. Nothing I do can aquire those rights by fiat. Nothing I do can obligate you without your consent.
This line from Microsoft angers me, because it goes beyond FUD, beyond number juggling, beyond threats, beyond monopolistic manipulation. It's not FUD, it's another three-letter word you may be familiar with: L I E . It's a flat-out lie. And they know it.
Little news tidbits like these ones actually explain why there's been a steady trickle of those bizarre, off the wall, statements and comments, from Ballmer, Gates, and other senior Microsoft officers. You know -- the comments like open source being some demonic spawn of Vladimir Il'ich Lenin; or Richard Stallman invading your corporate vaults and stealing your company secrets, etc... etc... etc...
/. can actually put a monetary amount on how much it actually is, if there's anybody in the world who has a pretty good idea how much revenue Microsoft is losing because of Linux, it must be Gates, Ballmer, and the rest of Microsoft's upper echelon.
I do believe that Open Source software, and Linux specifically, are taking a bigger, and bigger chunk out of Microsoft's revenues. Not much, in fact it's rather piddly; but it's still noticeable. And it's growing. Although few people on
And I think they're getting scared.
That may be a bit self-serving or presumptious, and with 40 billion in the bank they clearly don't have much to worry about. Still, I think they have to have at least a mild case of indigestion.
There's nothing in this story that really should surprise anyway. So the feds, and the spooks, are using Linux, sometimes in a quite visible, and mission-critical way. So? That's nothing earth-shattering. And that's precisely what's giving Ballmer and Co the problem. Linux has traction. Not just the feds. Linux has traction in big corporate America. SIAC - the folks who run the networks for the stock exchanges, have cut over some mission-critical functionality over to Linux. Look at the classifieds ads in New York City, from big financial firms. There's a small trickle of open job reqs for hackers with Linux experience.
Gates, Ballmer, and Co, are seeing this as well as the next guy, and they just don't know what to do about it. That's what's scaring them. It's one thing when you have a well-defined opponent to do battle with. But how do you define the opponent here? Microsoft can't clearly define who their opponent here is. There's no single company to purchase, spread FUD about, or drag into court over some frivolous intellectual issue, in order to bleed them with legal fees.
So, all you can do is to try to FUD your way against Linux in general. But each time you'll try to go with a generic FUD campaign, your arguments can be easily shut down with a single, specific, counterexample of Linux's success in a mission-critical role. There's enough case history out there now to be able to point to, as a counterargument to FUD.
Microsoft is clearly struggling, trying to figure out a focused, targeted, anti-Linux campaign, and failing each time. Notice how they no longer claim that Linux isn't ready for mission-critical roles. That didn't work. Now they're claiming that using Linux puts your intellectual property in jeopardy. That can't last much longer. They still can't come up with a specific example, and only talk about in generalities; furthermore with Sun and HP putting Linux APIs into their respectives *nixes, the notion that Sun and HP have intentionally put their intellectual property in jeopardy is a bit difficult to swallow.
So, I don't think the intellectual property FUD has much more left in it, and it will slowly disappear over time. So, what's the next FUD attack? I don't know. Neither does Ballmer, or Gates. And that's what's scaring them.
Promote Linux as the premier OS for security. It's already good - make it damn near perfect.
Linux isn't engineered, developers' scrath their itches, if lots of people care about really high end security, it will get done, otherwise it wont.
Provide our nation's defense infrastructure with an open-source secure OS. The DoD is a BIG customer - keep them happy.
While the more linux users the better, no developers care about specific countries or how big a user might be.
Less importantly, shame the fuck out of MSFT. Prove these dicks wrong while they're still patching IE security holes twice a month.
There have been more events than you can shake a stick at where MS screwed themselves over, Linux just needs to be good in order to make MS look like a fool.
Also I should advise you that 1) the NSA has their own version of linux is has extra security stuff, and two, don't forget about *BSD. OpenBSD hasn't had a remote root exploit in 4 years or something.
Only dead fish swim with the stream...
SELinux is not well understood. NSA has built a version of Linux with a mandatory security module. The idea is to allow people to experiment with a system that enforces mandatory security (which can be tough to live with) and to develop apps that can work within that model.
If you want to move things along, download SELinux and make some application work within a mandatory security model.
The fact that MS can lobby the pentagon (the *pentagon* for crissakes) speaks volumes about how much corporations run this country. The pentagon should tell MS to fuck off - if they want to whine about it, they can make an appeal to congress or some such. The military is supposed to be insulated to some extent from this kind of crap.
If I were running the pentagon, I'd kick those slick backstabbers out on their asses -- "we'll call you if we have any questions".
XML causes global warming.
Microsoft is trying to get Windows 2000 approved under the new scheme, but hasn't succeeded yet.
aren't contributing to any one nation's national security, but all takers equally.
I hear Al-queda is finally fed up with security leaks from their use of Microsoft software and are switching over to 100% open-source.
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"Ever watch Battleship Potempkin? How come you can't get that on Kazaa?"
Because it doesn't have Kirsten Dunst's nipples showing through a wet shirt silly.
What I was saying is that the MCSE program has way better brand recognition than anything Linux has to offer. Everybody's heard of it and frankly, outside of slashdot, it's rarely something to be ridiculed for.
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I've been writing software in PHP for an employment agency for the last year. I have had to work closely with our employment consultants to see how they work, what they think is important to know about candidates, vacancies and companies. None of them read
When our IT staff hear about someone with an MCSE their immediate reaction is "Get to the back of the queue with all the others."
MCSE may have incredible brand recognition, but that works against it being useful to employers. Everyone knows about it, it's marketed as the must-have qualification, so a candidate spends the money, spends some time, and as long as they have a certain IQ level, an MCSE comes out of the 'certification' slot on the Microsoft machine. Result - millions of MCSEs.
The first thing employers care about is work experience. They can call your last employer and ask how good you were. In 30 seconds they can make a decision. The second most important facto they consider is your real tertiary qualifications.
Last and least are the one-day courses, the part-time courses, and the MCSEs.
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more, Or close the wall up with our American dead!
As someone who has worked for MITRE, I know there's a reason that it "has been tight with the government since just about the dawn of time:" That's the company's purpose. It's a private company whose mission is to provide independent contracting for the government, so it has all the benefits of being able to do cool scientific research for DoD, DoE, the military, etc. with all the benefits of not actually being a government agency.
What this means is that a large number of its employees have advanced degrees - especially Ph.Ds - in scientific fields, so they have probably done their share of academic research in various *nices. They're used to it, and it's definitely pervasive throughout the company - plenty of Linux machines as well as Solaris and others - because they know they can use it for research and they don't have to worry about government licensing and other paperwork when buying their own equipment. They're free to push these systems all they want because they know they work and they have plenty of freedoms that a normal government agency might not have.
When I read about stories like this the impression I get is that Microsoft is desperate and is fighting a war they cannot win.
The best way to respond to Microsoft when they are in this position is to ignore them. By that I mean don't communicate with them. Refuse to take their phone calls, ignore email messages, throw faxes into the circular file, assuming of course that you have the power and authority to do so. This will have the effect of demoralizing the Microsoft employees tasked with preventing you from using non-MS products. This in turn will inhibit their ability to do this to others as well. At the end of the day anything that causes a Microsoftie to do a bad job is a good thing.
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