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New GNU Hurd Kernel Released
Anonymous Coward writes "I don't know if there is much interest out there, but GNU Mach Kernel 1.3 was just released a couple days ago. (May 28)." Looking forward to that 2002 release...
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Takes until May 2002 to support larger than 10gig hard drives, sorry.
Quote:
28 May 2002
We are pleased to announce version 1.3 of the GNU distribution of the Mach kernel, featuring advanced boot script support, support for large disks (>= 10GB) and an improved console.
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I don't think it'd matter if it was. Them GNU/html pages are pretty GNU/plain. I think that Atari 800 web server (http://kl.net/atari/) could handle the load. ;^)
(note that I'm really not making fun of the pages. Gettin' a little tired of "text via Flash" myself)
It's all 0s and 1s. Or it's not.
"a tradeoff most sysadmins are quick to take."? Blimey, I'm glad I don't work where you do or deal with any of your systems...
Surely no self-respecting sysadmin (by which I mean 'person administering real machines for real-life applications', and not 'hacker sitting at home') would make this tradeoff at all, let alone 'quickly'? To each their own, but the mind boggles..
How does this compare to the Darwin Mach kernel?
Lies about crimes
"The site www.stallman.org is running Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) on FreeBSD."
I think you mean GNU/FreeBSD, don't you?
Quoth RMS:
"Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is more often known as ``FreeBSD'', and many users are not aware of the extent of its connection with the GNU Project.
"There really is a FreeBSD; it is a kernel, and these people are using it. But you can't use a kernel by itself; a kernel is useful only as part of a whole operating system. FreeBSD is normally used in a combination with the GNU operating system: the system is basically GNU, with FreeBSD functioning as the kernel.
"Many users are not fully aware of the distinction between the kernel, which is FreeBSD, and the whole system, which they also call ``FreeBSD''. The ambiguous use of the name doesn't promote understanding.
GNU= GNU not unix
HURD=?
HURD its bitch to to operate
HURD its a RMS that bitches about it operaing
HURD definately not Linux or Unix but something that take a long time to develop beyond the curent OS kernel trends into something that.....never is finished?
Don't Tread on OpenSource
Mr. Hanky, the RMS-Poo,
He loves me, and I love GNU.
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
Because RMS feels the need to deride others. Sometimes his derision is spot on; a lot of the time, it simply is not. RMS' attacks on the technical value of the Linux kernel and the personal characteristics of Linus, for example, have become more vitrolitic over time. It is hardly surprising that many people, witnissing this spectacle, feel compelled to respond by pointing out the man's shortcomings, or those of his projects.
It's more than a bit on the nose when RMS scorns Linux as a stand-in for the HURD, yet the HURD has only gained the capability to run serial ports at speeds the rest of the world could manage 10 years ago, or that getting support for modern hard drives has only just arrived.
Stallman is someone with strong opinions and an abrasive manner, who attracts likeminded people. If, like Theo de Raat, he's going to hand it out, he can expect to get it in return.
As for microkernels - they've been a darling of the research community for a long, long time, but their practical value remains questionable. Perhaps MacOS X and the HURD will demonstrate their value in some tangible way that makes it apparent they're a win over monolithic kernels (NT gave up some time ago, shifting stuff that a classic mk architecture should have as a server process into the kernel, and gradually dropping support for most of the other, non Win32 personalities).
The GPL is certainly one of the greatest _legal_ texts ever written in computer history. But, with regards to _coding_, Linux stands head and shoulders above GNU. I use Linux, despite of GNU, not because of it. I wish I had a better compiler than GCC, I'm glad I have better editors than Vim or Emacs. Yes, GNU is essential to Linux, just like cement is essential to building a house. Does anybody remember which brand of cement was used in Frank Lloyd Wright's houses?