BPDG Not Much Of A Threat?

Captn Pepe writes: "According to this article in the NY Times, the Broadcast Protection Discussion Group could be less dangerous to consumer freedoms than has been suggested, because they apparently can't agree on anything. As happened with SDMI and similar efforts by the content industry to cram restrictions into digital devices, 'the central stumbling block to arriving at a broad agreement on the proposal may simply have been a bid by the studios for too much control over carrying it out.'" Read below for a related but very different take on the state of the BPDG.

DigForFiles writes "It seems that the media companies and the tech companies may be near an agreement concerning fair use of digital broadcasts. Apparently the basic plan is FOX's and is to have broadcast programs be digitally flagged by the media guys and the tech guys are responsible for building all home digital recorders so that they recognize the flags. Consumers would be able to record the broadcasts for home use and data transfers within their local LAN but the flags would prohibit the transfer of recorded data outside the household. Thus they hope to prevent P2P networks from trading the broadcasts online while allowing fair use within the household. Some of the presentation material can be found here. The guys in charge, Copy Protection Technical Working Group, meet on 5 June for further discussions. A list of attendees can be found here (it's in Excel format)."

Comments

Interesting, but huh?

[weave]

I can copy a digital signal for use inside my household, but not usable outside the local LAN? How is THAT accomplised? First, almost everyone's local lan is in a 192.168 block or 10. block. But besides that, I cap my TV shows on my computer, edit out commercials (oh oh...) and burn to VCD and watch in living room. Once on VCD, what then? It melts if it wanders out of my home, like a holodeck character walking out of the holodeck? (Unless he has one of those devices on his arm of course...)

Re:Interesting, but huh?

[dcavanaugh]

Perhaps the sheer impossibility of this is why the /. article suggests it's less dangerous than originally thought. I can't imagine a scheme like this surviving more than a day before the hackers rip it to pieces. Let the media folks try impossible things as much as they like. Better yet, make a standard from things that don't work.

Do you really think the digital video recorder manufacturers are going to tool up and produce millions of devices that nobody wants because they implement Hollywood's idea of copy control? Not unless the algorithm is flawed and readily defeated by consumers. At that point, sales will skyrocket when the consumers learn how to uncripple the hardware. Example: The easily hackable Apex DVD players. That hidden menu for disabling region codes & Macrovision was a brilliant sales tool.

let the studios do what they want

[C0vardeAn0nim0]

before modinf me down, read further.

the largest producer of movies is India. France AFAIK has restrictions in importing intelectual production from overseas, worlds largest potential consumer market (china) has also restrictions on these subject.

so let the american studios byte theyr own tail. if they start pushing to much control crap over the consumer, the level of rejection against their products will grow in other countries too, then 2 things can happen:

1- media produced in US will end up restricted to a niche market (US itself) OR;

2- The media industry in US (studios, recording companies, etc.) will end up losing money and learning what other industries already know: The consumer is KING. do what the consumer wants. give the consumer liberty and they'll respond buying your products.