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Two New Microsoft Languages - AsmL and Pan
AlphaAlien (from neonerds.net) writes: "Another Microsoft Programming Language -- AsmL. AsmL is the Abstract State Machine Language. It is an executable specification language based on the theory of Abstract State Machines. AsmL allows you to test incomplete code due to it being executable on the fly. This doesn't mean it'll execute invalid code though, only that you can execute code segments for instant experimentation (similar to the test-debug function in Visual Studio, but more flexible/powerful). In case you're not tired of all these new Microsoft languages, here's another, Pan. Pan is an experimental embedded language and compiler for image synthesis and manipulation, based on principles from functional programming. The Pan compiler turns descriptions of images and image effects into efficient machine code for use with either a stand-alone program, DirectXTransform for web-page embedding (viewable with IE 5.5 or later), or as a PhotoShop plug-in for use with hosts like Adobe PhotoShop and JASC PaintShop Pro (has only been tested with latter at this point, but should work with former)." You can
download Pan from here.
In reading some of the the papers on pan, it seems have a lot in common with that other Image Description Langage, Postscript, albeit on a finer level.
Of course, here is where I insert the knee-jerk comment about having code embedded in an object with Microsofts reputation for security regarding such things.
However, while the technology is very compelling at first glance (Inovation? From Microsoft? Faugh!), I'm just disheartedened that there is little chance it will make it to the world outside Microsoft products, if it even survives at all (there is little real world interest in these sort of things at the moment).
Hilary Rosen's speech was about her love of money and her desire to roll around naked in a pile of money.
Gentlemen, the time has come for a serious discussion on whether or
not to continue using C for serious programming projects. As I will
explain, I feel that C needs to be retired, much the same way that
Fortran, Cobol and Perl have been. Furthermore, allow me to be so bold
as to suggest a superior replacement to this outdated language.
To give you a little background on this subject, I was recently asked
to develop a client/server project on a Unix platform for a Fortune
500 company. While I've never coded in C before I have coded in VB for
fifteen years, and in Java for over ten, I was stunned to see how
poorly C fared compared to these two, more low-level languages.
C's biggest difficulty, as we all know, is the fact that it is by far
one of the slowest languages in existance, especially when compared to
more modern languages such as Java, C#, and VB. Although the reasons for
this are varied, the main reasons seems to be the way C requires a
programmer to laboriously work with chunks of memory.
Requiring a programmer to manipulate blocks of memory is a tedious way
to program. This was satisfactory back in the early days of coding,
but then again, so were punchcards. By using what are called
"pointers" a C programmer is basically requiring the computer to do
three sets of work rather than one. The first time requires the
computer to duplicate whatever is stored in the memory space "pointed
to" by the pointer. The second time requires it to perform the needed
operation on this space. Finally the computer must delete the
duplicate set and set the values of the original accordingly.
Clearly this is a horrendous use of resources and the chief reason why
C is so slow. When one looks at a more modern (and a more serious)
programming language like Java, C# or - even better - Visual Basic
that lacks such archaic coding styles, one will also note a serious
speed increase over C.
So what does this mean for the programming community? I think clearly
that C needs to be abandonded. There are two candidates that would be
a suitable replacement for it. Those are Java and Visual Basic.
Having programmed in both for many years, I believe that VB has the
edge. Not only is it slightly faster than Java its also much easier to
code in. I found C to be confusing, frightening and intimidating with
its non-GUI-based coding style. Furthermore, I like to see the source
code of the projects I work with. Java's source seems to be under the
monopolistic thumb of Sun much the way that GCC is obscured from us by
the marketing people at the FSF. Microsoft's "shared source" under
which Visual Basic is released definately seems to be the most fair
and reasonable of all the licenses in existance, with none of the
harsh restrictions of the BSD license. It also lacks the GPLs
requirement that anything coded with its tools becomes property of the
FSF.
I hope to see a switch from C to VB very soon. I've already spoken
with various luminaries in the C coding world and most are eager to
begin to transition. Having just gotten off the phone with Mr. Alan
Cox, I can say that he is quite thrilled with the speed increases that
will occur when the Linux kernel is completely rewritten in Visual
Basic. Richard Stallman plans to support this, and hopes that the
great Swede himself, Linux Torvaldis, won't object to renaming Linux
to VB/Linux. Although not a C coder himself, I'm told that Slashdot's
very own Admiral Taco will support this on his web site. Finally,
Dennis Ritchie is excited about the switch!
Thank you for your time. Happy coding.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
Today microsoft is putting forth AsmL1.5. It's reasonable to assume they will evnetually release AsmL8.
Funny, I thought Pan was the Pimp Ass Newsreader. or maybe they're thinking of the pan flute instead.
I though asml meant
Another Shitty M$ Language
Whodda known?
No, I don't trust in god. He'll have to pay up front, like everybody else.
Thanks to whoever posted those links to the research site over at M$.
A few notes from the past half-hour:
PAN is old. The fricking code was last updated 2 years ago. I've seen that page before. 2 YEARS AGO.
anyways. here's another note.
http://research.microsoft.com/~dbwilson/ -- this guy's pretty funny as far as Microsoft goes. He's releasing some stuff under the GPL on Microsoft's server, as well as linking to GNU Emacs for Windows. I think he deserves a raise.
HURD - Hurd's Under Research & Development
Once again, you guys are confusing Microsoft Research with Microsoft. It's a different place. They don't put out crappy, buggy software, or try to take over the world. It's just a research lab.
Incidentally, MSR Cambridge has some of the best programming language researchers in the world! (Personally, I wish the linux world had more tolerance for new PL ideas..)
The concept of testing code on the fly is one of the features of python that makes python so great.(The interactive prompt part is where you can execute on the fly code)
maybe they chose to invest it in the future
I was kind of sorry to see that ASM's inventor, Yuri Gurevich, left the University of Michigan for Microsoft Research. However, I'd probably take private research over the hassle of teaching while doing research.
Microsoft has a long history of using confusing names from similar but not exactly the same areas, so their names sound familiar to people -- just some most "famous" examples:
.NET (conglomerate of protocols, tools and libraries based on XML and RPC, conflicts with ".net" top-level domain).
1. Windows (operating system, conflict with user interface element that was already in wide use when it was developed).
2. Digital Nervous System (used as a pointless phrase in ads, conflicts with Domain Name System).
3.
4. Windows XP (operating system, conflixts with Extreme Programming).
5. X-box (game console, conflicts with X terminals from X Window System).
And that doesn't include the use of terms that describe existing classes of products such as "SQL Server", "Internet Explorer", etc.
Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.