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UK Reconsiders Expansion of Surveillance Powers

davecl writes "BBC News Online is reporting that the plans to allow a vast range of bodies to access email and phone records have now been shelved. They seem to have been surprised by the depth and breadth of opposition. The measures may surface again after November in the new session of parliament, but they'll be taking it much more seriously then. Looks like we may have scored a notable success here, but continued vigilance will be needed."

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  1. Maybe there is some democracy left in the UK by Ethelthefrog · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have been getting increasingly worried about the fact that Labour can do what they like seemingly unopposed because a) they have a rediculous majority in the House and b) the opposition simply don't have a clue. It is a great relief that democracy worked in this case.

    I raise my glass to all who, like myself, contacted their MP's and raised a stink.

    EtF.

  2. www.stand.org.uk by Snart+Barfunz · · Score: 4, Informative

    I hope you all visited the above site and used it to fax your MP. Don't forget to go back when the bill resurfaces.

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  3. "slashdotted" due to soccer... by CProgrammer98 · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you find the site slashdotted, it's because of the Korea/Italy game - it's the same servers they're using to give a live feed of the match report, and as it's just gone into extra time, it's likely to be congested for the next 45 minutes or so. Soccer fever is one of the very few things that can "slashdot" the bbc, I've only ever seen it once before, that was 9/11

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  4. Re:finally by RegularFry · · Score: 2, Informative

    Uh... Where do you think the major NSA listening stations for the Eastern Hemisphere are?
    Hint: there's one here, and another one here.

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  5. Home office blurts out the truth..... by babycakes · · Score: 3, Informative

    A home office minister on BBC R4 yesterday blurted out that the government were collecting the data anyway, regardless....check the story on The Register ...

  6. or mirror of populace? by fw3 · · Score: 3, Informative
    I've only been to the UK 3 times, in '69, '83 and '96.

    While London in 1983 was in the midst of a time of relatively high terrorism, The experience of being in London for a US citizen was an interesting contrast. People were very mindful of left packages anywhere public. Paris was markedly more striking in the presence of guards armed with automatic weapons outside many embassies / banks. Only saw that once in London that trip.

    In 1996 there was a very different feel. The presence of private security cameras was highly visible and I was warned a few times about elevated danger of street crime. London still felt far safer on ballance than any US city I've ever spent time in, but still much changed from '83, let alone '69.

    In the US presently I think most of the population would welcome far stricter intrusions of privacy than what the government has actually opposed (which is still somewhat more than I'm happy about).

    The UK has lived with visible levels of terrorism for decades, while for we in the US it's a pretty new adjustment. Don't know how that affects policy or people's actions on a daily basis, 'cause I don't live there.

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    1. Re:or mirror of populace? by karmawarrior · · Score: 3, Informative

      FWIW handguns were not outlawed in Britain due to gun crime, but fear of abuse by licenced holders, after one licenced gun owner, Thomas Hamilton, went bezerk in a school in Scotland.

      Before the handgun ban, relatively few were in circulation, and it's fair to say that the law itself cannot have made a blind bit of difference one way or another as far as gun related crime goes for that reason. The usual arguments that widespread gun-ownership deters crime cannot apply in a country where widespread gun-ownership did not exist.

      (Interestingly, gun related crime has increased in Britain since then, but for an entirely unexpected reason: Britain became the center for the illegal gun trade outside of the US. Bizarre.)

      I write this for the purposes of explanation. I've yet to make my mind up on issues related to banning guns, having gun-toting friends but also having lived in Britain and being thankful for an environment where having a confrontation with the police doesn't run any danger of having a lethal weapon pointed at you...

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