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Inside the Cult of TiVo

StudMuffin writes: "A group of TiVo enthusiasts from over at the TiVo Community Forum recently got together. About 100 people showed up to roast weenies and swap TiVo hacks and screen names. This is just plain cool, if you ask me. TiVo rocks. Of interest, however, was the representation of the TiVo company and the fact that they didn't fight to stop hacking their product. Does this relationship between hi-tech companies and hackers act as a model of how this relationship can work? TiVo even seems tolerant of really hardcore hacks as discussed on /. in the past."

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  1. Re:Honey is better than vinegar by macdaddy357 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe the people at Tivo still get it that crossing your paying customers will cost you your paying customers, so they do not harass the hackers. Besides, If I buy a Tivo, it's my personal property. I have the right to use it as I see fit, no matter what the MPAA or television networks say. By the way, If I share my recordings of free broadcast TV how is that stealing?

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  2. Re:Very much a model of how it should be done. by Orangedog_on_crack · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if Tivo has tried to recruit any of the people that have developed any of the more popular hacks, be they "legal" or not. If I were running a company and found someone who had the skill to come up with good hacks on the hardware that I was manufacturing, I would want them on the payroll.

  3. Not really... by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Tivo doesn't make money off the hardware. (In fact, the hardware is made by Phillips and Sony, and I think I saw once that TiVo actually PAYS Phillips and Sony a small subsidy per box.)

    TiVo's revenue stream is from their *service* - I have a friend that works for them, and he basically says that their attitude is that it's anything goes for hackers, in fact they secretly cheer them on.

    BUT, that's as long as the hackers don't go near their revenue stream. Try to screw with their channel guide service/etc., and they will most definately NOT be supporting it. (I think someone basically said that TiVo went to some lengths to shut down people who did such things.)

    Hackers upgrading mean:
    a) TiVo doesn't have to pay the small subsidy on new boxes.
    b) If the hacker installs a network card, it means they stop using the TiVo dialup system for updates.

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