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OSCAR 7 is Alive

AB3A writes :"Originally launched November 15, 1974, OSCAR 7 was long thought to be dead from natural causes (radiation, battery failure, space junk, etc.). However, AMSAT reports that it has recently been heard on the air! This probably isn't a record, but it does rank right up there with spacecraft such as Pioneer. I wonder how many other satellites out there have been given up for dead but are still functional at some reduced capacity?"

32 comments

  1. Was alive by heikkile · · Score: 3, Funny

    But now it is dead again, thanks to the slashdot effect

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  2. sppoky by OpenMind(tm) · · Score: 1

    I hope it hasn't just returned from deep space after contact with an alien intellegence that gave it great power.

    Or worse, become some sort of space zombie, eating the brains from our hard-working GPS sattelites.

    It could happen.

    1. Re:sppoky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, dont worry, part of Vger's problem was its
      mission was "To Seek out knowledge, and return it to the creator".

      AO-7's mission was to communicate...

      Although I suppose it may try to talk you to death :)

  3. the real thing? by tps12 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Interesting. So this satellite has long since dropped off the face of the solar system. And then, one day, without warning...it's back?

    Excuse me?

    News flash: satellites don't fix themselves.

    As Sherlock Holmes was fond of saying, "once you have ruled out the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be correct." Or something to that effect.

    In any case, I see to possibilities as to what really happened:
    1. the satellite was "replaced" by a foreign government, so as to appear to be the genuine OSCAR 7 while monitoring all of our transmissions, and
    2. the satellite was "replaced" by...someone else.
    Now I'm not one to start telling UFO stories, but I don't want to rule out the second possibility (see Holmes quotation above). At the very least, we should approach the purported OSCAR 7 very cautiously. And we might want to start preparing a welcoming committee, too...just in case.
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    1. Re:the real thing? by flikx · · Score: 1

      You seem to disregard the fact that intermittent failures can and DO happen. And Sherlock Holmes was a character.

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    2. Re:the real thing? by Cryptosporidium · · Score: 2, Funny

      "And Sherlock Holmes was a character."

      Ah, that's what you think. They may have already gotten to you.

    3. Re:the real thing? by Red_Winestain · · Score: 4, Funny
      As Sherlock Holmes was fond of saying, "once you have ruled out the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be correct."

      But as Dirk Gently rejoins, "I reject that entirely...The impossible often has a kind of integrity to it which the merely improbable lacks."

    4. Re:the real thing? by g4dget · · Score: 2
      Interesting. So this satellite has long since dropped off the face of the solar system. And then, one day, without warning...it's back? News flash: satellites don't fix themselves.

      Ah, but when they get captured and repaired by super-powerful machine intelligences they come back to earth bigger, better, and badder than before. OSCAR 7 DEMANDS TO SEE THE CREATOR.

    5. Re:the real thing? by brsmith4 · · Score: 1

      Vee-ger ring a bell?

    6. Re:the real thing? by Liora · · Score: 1

      Last I checked, loose wires happen all the time, and then, provided no one about is bored enough to take whatever it is apart, a good shake ten years later will sometimes yield a working item.

      I have a loose wire in the front driver's side speaker in my car. I go over one bump, I get surround sound. I go over another and, voila!, I don't. I could fix it, but I don't have time yet.

      So in other words, the ...someone else... didn't even have to replace the satellite with a new one resembling OSCAR 7. All they had to do was bump it.

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    7. Re:the real thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am NOMAD.

  4. hijacking sats... by thorgil · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    by the way...

    when do they calculate a satelite as "dead".
    when loosing contact?

    So if someone hijacks a satelite (with a satelite dish, a radio transmitter and a powerful computer)

    How do the owners know if it was hacked or killed?

    Maybe there are some old but alive hacked sats out there......
    ..... Maybe I CONTROL THEM... MUhuhahhahaa...

    free cable anyone?

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  5. getting close to July 4th you know what that means by Tumbleweed · · Score: 3, Funny

    "They're using our own satellites against us!"

    Somebody get ahold of Jeff Goldblum and Will Smith. I've got a project for them.

    Or maybe we should just hand this one off to the Men in Black.

  6. More info... by robslimo · · Score: 3, Informative

    More AO-7 status info here

    Interesting to note that it is expected (and wasn't made clear in the original article) that OSCAR-7 is operating on the solar array only. Meaning that it shuts down when it's not in sunlight and may or may not reboot each sunlight period. I find that believable because I wouldn't expect a NiCd battery pack to last even half that number of years. Especially given the type of charging circuit that was probably used in those days. Nobody used the dV/dT fast/smart charge method way back when.

  7. Anyone got the Keps? by robslimo · · Score: 1

    Drat. Google (or the satellite tracking community) has let me down. I can't find any current Keplerian elements (orbital data) on AO-7. Surely it is still kept track of, even though it's not necessarily used.

    Anyone know where to find the Keps?

    1. Re:Anyone got the Keps? by robslimo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Arg.

      Should have checked the front page at www.amsat.org

      Here are the keps for AO-7 if anyone else cares...

      AO-07
      1 07530U 74089B 02167.52996888 -.00000029 00000-0 10000-3 0 935
      2 07530 101.7955 212.2077 0012102 193.4285 166.6467 12.53558681262239

    2. Re:Anyone got the Keps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      And here's an heavens-above link that will plot AMSAT-Oscar-7's orbit for you

  8. Oh, shit by Snafoo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Here we go again.

    Someone prepare a bald-headed chick and a transporter beam... 'ocar' is back.

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    1. Re:Oh, shit by teambpsi · · Score: 2

      why, is kirstie alley now in chemo ??

      :)

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  9. And the message was..... by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 1
    ...a cheap spacecraft built by a bunch of hams
    After transcribing the CW, I decoded the message:
    What's the weather like there? It's sunny here, but cold, over.
  10. Re:getting close to July 4th you know what that me by TheAlmightyQ · · Score: 1

    Don't worry.
    We'll be able to defeat the aliens, as long as they still use AppleTalk protocol on their servers so that 'ol Jeff can upload the virus from his powerbook.

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  11. Another good article by Ethidium · · Score: 1

    Another good article can be found here, at the home of the American Radio Relay League, the north american Secretariat of the International Amateur Radio Union.

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  12. Re:getting close to July 4th you know what that me by denisbergeron · · Score: 1

    > We'll be able to defeat the aliens, as long as they still use AppleTalk protocol on their servers

    If I remember rigth, in Idependance Day, they use TCP/IP ! When he connect the laptop on the alien vessel, we can see a Big window in the "MovieOS" style where we can read "TCP-IP Connect" !

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  13. Re:getting close to July 4th you know what that me by nirvdrum · · Score: 1

    Seems more like the Event Horizon to me.

    "Hell is just a word. The reality is much, much worse"
    -Dr. Weir

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  14. Brings back memories by wb8wsf · · Score: 1

    I was in the 11th grade I think, when 7 was put into operation. It and Oscar 6 were the first sats I used. To find out that it's back in operation after all these years is an eerie feeling. This is like talking to a ghost, I think. For me, it's tinged with sadness in a sense, as several of the hams I talked with though 6 and 7 are silent keys now.

    Goes to show that truth is always stranger than fiction.

    --wb8wsf (STeve Andre')

    1. Re:Brings back memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my call is KC8ONW for anyone that cares and when i had the time i ran the UCARC amateur radio club webpage http://www.uc.edu/w8yx and it is rather sad that most of what is here is jokes i would think it would generate more interest than this? I admit i have not done a lot since i got my license about a year ago but it still seems to me that amateur radio is really struggling in my area (southwestern ohio USA) My dad has a tower in our yard he put in years ago and i dont think he has touched the equipment for years and he keeps the room locked for other reasons so i cant use the equipment either but somewhat on topic this really does renew my interest in working satellites maybe i can find the time to learn code and upgrade from a tech.

  15. I love that Pink Bunny! by NetNinja · · Score: 0

    So that's where he hangs out.

  16. my uninformed reading of this by RomulusNR · · Score: 1

    is that they believe the satellite actually broke over time, to point where it caused something else that wasn't broken -- the solar power system -- to kick in.

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  17. Shuttle Status Report by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I found this report on the Endeavors current status:
    http://space.mit.edu/nasanews.html#0206210859093