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Russia Poised to Restrict Net Activities

DigitalHammer writes: "The Russian Parliament is planning to place off- and online restrictions to curb pro-Nazi and anti-religious activities. Former Reds are afraid they will be labeled as extremists, while envirnomentalists and human rights groups complain that the proposed restrictions will halt free speech in communist-turned-democratic Russia. Deja vu, I see? News.com has the story."

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  1. Always good to see... by Rombuu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ..us getting all up in arms when other societies don't follow our beliefs.

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    1. Re:Always good to see... by neocon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Funny, you say that as if merely being `another society' somehow made them immune to basic, universal ideals such as free speech. The fact is that some things are objectively wrong, no matter what society they are part of, and even if they correspond to the beliefs of that society.

    2. Re:Always good to see... by Telastyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Free speech is not a universal ideal. You happened to reply to my other post in this regard, so I'll assume you're zealously opposed to any speech limitations. Many cultures believe that free speech is not a basic universal ideal for everyone. (ex: Formal Japanese/Indian castes, most Islamic states)

      It is not objectively wrong to prevent free speech when the person being "oppressed" can freely leave their oppressors with no consiquence (as exists in Japan, though not in most Islamic states).

      Your reply to my post referenced sept 11 as being something patently evil, and wrong; can't you even consider the fact that you, and everyone that thinks like you made us a target? Willfully imposing upon other cultures in such a "holier than thou" way something that goes against what they consider to be a basic, universal ideal handed down from God even.

      Let others be free to do what they deem to be "best", and maybe they will leave us to be free to live they way we think is "best".

  2. But what is the difference? by ImaLamer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If I operated a site which went on and on about how [insert -ism here] followers are great and America is evil and all that "bin Ladin" jazz then I would either get shut down or arrested.

    America right now is in such a state of panic (well, the government is...) that they would go out of their way to crush your message.

    Let's look back to the Committees on Anti-American Activities. So many lives were ruined and people were forced to answer up because they believed in something that "threatened" America (note: some didn't even believe, they were just accused). Now even though people here were afraid because of the obvious reasons - the Communist party was on the ballott. They still would have to be elected to gain any power. In fact AFAIK, no one has ever been elected under the party.

    So, is this a YRO story? Kinda. But only if you are in Russia. To change this you'd have to be Russian and you would have to vote out the bastards doing this. If no one objects then... oh well.

    Of course "anyone who give up freedom for security deserves neither". But that is an American quote. My guess is that lots of people here would be jumping to restrict KKK or Al-Quesadilla sites fast.

    It's a funny thing. Bush has used the word "terrorism" so much that he is starting to become a tumor, ah I mean terrorist himself. His speeches scare more people than a picture of bin Ladin or the falling Twin Towers.

    Just wait till they sue over the LoTR Part II title claiming it's offensive.