No Logo Wins FreeBSD Foundation Contest

RJPDeanLO writes: "The FreeBSD Foundation logo contest has ended with no winners! Check out their statement on the site. To support FreeBSD ... I'm hoping that we can all get a second chance at it. Please reopen the contest!"

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link is broken

[swright]

I know I'm going to get modded down for this but the link in the article is wrong.

http://freebsdfoundation.org/

Good job on the link

[gmhowell]

'Editor' One who edits.

'Edit' To prepare (written material) for publication or presentation, as by correcting, revising, or adapting.

Re:Good job on the link

[Hard_Code]

What is your problem with that link? If you bothered to scroll to the bottom you'd see:

The FreeBSD Foundation logo contest has ended.
We received 106 entries altogether. Many thanks to all of you who took the time to participate! The entries were very creative and showed a lot of design talent. Unfortunately, there was no entry that spoke to us as the logo we should use. So for now, the FreeBSD Foundation will remain logoless.

Re:Good job on the link

[cjpez]

When the story was first posted, the link looked like <a href="blahblah.com">, as opposed to <a href="http://blahblah.com">. When you clicked on the original version, you then went to http://slashdot.org/blahblah.com, instead of http://blahblah.com like you wanted to. The story has since been fixed.

Re:Good job on the link

[gmhowell]

When the story first appeared (I believe my comment was the fifth for the story) the link was: /freebsdfoundation.org. It was corrected without the editor making note of the fact that there was an error in the original story.

I'm not the only one who noticed. This person, this person, this person, and this person all noticed the problem. Funny thing is that I have seen a story or two on Slashdot complaining when other news cites change stories without indicating it.

No REAL answer on the site

[ip_vjl]

We received 106 entries altogether. Many thanks to all of you who took the time to participate! The entries were very creative and showed a lot of design talent. Unfortunately, there was no entry that spoke to us as the logo we should use. So for now, the FreeBSD Foundation will remain logoless.

This is the type of critique that will drive a designer insane. Most artists are used to taking criticism (at least ones with actual art training) - but it's very difficult to take "no direction" criticism, as it leaves you with no way to improve your work.

Instead of saying none of the entries were "it", they should be saying WHY none of the entries are acceptable so that future designers will have some idea what to do so as not to make the same mistakes apparently made by the first crew.

Sounds suspiciously like "we each had our favorites, and couldn't reach a consensus."

Re:No REAL answer on the site

[EvlG]

I don't think the poster wanted in-depth criticism of all the submissions, rather, SOMETHING to go on.

Saying "we didn't like any of these" is of no use.

However, saying "we didn't like them because they looked too much like our competitors, lacked distinctive design elements that evidenced what FreeBSD is all about, and were in general too plain" is at least slightly more useful.

At this point, it is impossible for any of the original artists to improve their submission and try again, even if the contest were still open. The whole thing became a 'skeet-shoot' where FreeBSD Foundation yelled "PULL!", a bunch of artists threw out submissions, and every one was shot down without any comments.

Re:No REAL answer on the site

[ip_vjl]

Actually, I was *not* one of the artists who submitted. I bookmarked the submission site, but forgot about it until it had already closed. If they were still looking, I would consider making a submission, but without any direction it would most likely be a waste of time.

This was the nature of my post. Unless they can give a general idea of what was wrong, or what they're looking for, I don't see how ANY artist could provide something. It's a total shot in the dark.

In the design world, their response is the equivalent of filing a bug report that consists solely of "I got an error." Unless you can be a little more detailed, there's really nothing that can be done to help.

Re:Offtopic: Fellow BSD Users, Upgrade your SSH no

[zulux]

ok, what if we run openssh on a linux box? are we still in danger of compromise?

According to the scant information available, yes, Linux useres are at risk. Keep in mind, their warnings could also be a case where the OpenSSH people are telling people that every platform is at risk in order to not give nasty-people any additional infomration.

I'd beleive the OpenSSH people at face value and upgrade myself.

Some info. Re:Offtopic: Fellow BSD Users, Upgrade

[RiC!N]

There was a lot of discussion on the FreeBSD mailing lists, you may call it the "Theo show" with comments of the maestro himself. Check the mailing lists archives at freebsd.org (if updated already).

Unfortunately, for FreeBSD-stable this means that they'll have to jump versions to openssh-3.3 most likely by using the openssh-portable port and introducing that into the base distribution. Work is already being done (notably by DES, one of the commiters, hats off!)

Some people advised getting rid of the default openssh and installing the newer one through ports. Trouble is that the functionality that "separates privileges" is relatively new and has to be incorperated into -stable quickly now.

Many people didn't like this especially because Theo's comments seem to indicate that the required fix in question is small and simple. And the new feature in openssh may only be *one* way to prevent said exploit from causing serious harm. That's something entirely different from an actual fix of course. So some folks felt that they were being dragged into a major version bump maybe unnescessary.

Consider for example that OpenBSD doesn't use PAM while FreeBSD does use it (extensively), and you can imagine a bumpy ride on -stable soon.

I don't mean to take sides or something, just let you know what's going on.

Where are the entries?

[Foozy]

Can't they be put up online and let the people decide?
If not, why not?

Run the contest again

[RJPDeanLO]

It is a shame there were no winners. I hope they reopen it and display all the entries again. This way all of us can see what was entered and maybe that would guide us on creating bigger and better logos? I already have an idea to out do my entered logo :) Please re-open the contest FreeBSD Foundation. We want to show our appreciation to the foundation and to freeBSD itself!

Re:A logo speaks a thousand words?

[RJPDeanLO]

You make a very good point atcurtis. If they want a "serious" logo ... then they just need to let us know. :)

I must be confused...

[lostchicken]

...but if I am, surely others are too. Isn't the "Devil" logo FreeBSD's?

Re:I must be confused...

[Kingfox]

Unless you're using the graphical Daemon screensaver, where the hell are your Baptists going to see the cute little guy? Don't leave manuals with the daemon on the cover out, don't leave CD jewel cases with the daemon on them out, instead use burned copies.

Seriously, I've been running FreeBSD, and the only times I see the mascot is when I put him someplace.

Re:I must be confused...

[lobos]

It's a daemon, not a devil. It's quite different. There's nothing bad about daemons whatsoever. A daemon (in the way FreeBSD uses it) is not the common definition of demon most go by but "a supernatural being of Greek mythology intermediate between gods and men." From the FreeBSD Handbook, "Daemons were characters in Greek mythology; neither good or evil, they were little attendant spirits that, by and large, did useful things for mankind. Much like the web servers and mail servers of today do useful things. This is why the BSD mascot has, for a long time, been the cheerful looking daemon with sneakers and a pitchfork."

Whoa

[sulli]

Scared me for a minute. From the headline, it sounded like the incredibly annoying No Logo had won! Thank the Lord that's not the case.