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Two New Spam Laws in Japan

An anonymous reader submits: "The Daily Yomiuri, one of the major newpapers in Japan, reports (in English) that two new laws aimed at spam have just come into effect. In short, the laws require that spammers honor 'opt-out,' provide a valid return address, indicate the commercial nature of the message in the title, and never use randomly generated email addresses. The laws were pressured into effect by NTT DoCoMo, who complained that as much as 84% of all email circulating on its system (i.e., cell phones) is sent at random."

23 comments

  1. Concerning by Bouncings · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I'm starting to get concerned about the growing number of laws regulating spam. A lot of spam I get says "This email cannot be considered spam because it is in compliance with XYZ"

    So my question is, are these moderate anti-spam laws really helping or hurting? I see them, in the long run, offering some legitimacy to spam. In that these laws are so weak, that they don't really curb spam, but because they are the only regulation on the topic, spammers will point their ISPs to these laws and demand service.

    I'd say maybe the community should fight all laws but out-right bans on spam.

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    1. Re:Concerning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spammers can't demand service. It is at the discretion of the isp whether they want them as a customer or not. And if the spammer is going to harm the isp's reputation, then they may well not want them as a customer - there isn't a damn thing the spammer can do if that is the case.

      Check out the TOS of most isps - they can disconnect you for anything they feel like, really.

    2. Re:Concerning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      most (if not all) of those "compliance with blah" are fraudulent anyway (a crime in itself, i think), duping people (like you) and small ISPs into a false sense of legality.

      and yes, you're right. the laws wont help. there will ALWAYS be those open relays out there that allow spoofed headers for fake return addrs, etc. Blacklists only help for so long as usually a spammer can get a million or more messages out before the server gets bl'd and ISPs update their lists.

    3. Re:Concerning by DeadMeat+(TM) · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The trick is, they're not in compliance with anything. Spam usually refers to Senate bill S.1618 or House bill HR 3133, neither of which was passed into law. They would have both required working opt-out addresses and legitimate headers, so virtually all spam wouldn't have been in compliance with it anyway.

      Incidentally, setting your mail filters to delete all mail with "S.1618" in the body is a terrific spam filter, since no legitimate mail ever refers to it, and nearly all spam does.

  2. Don't get so excited yet by twilight30 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    As someone who is part Japanese and spent two years over there, I'd suggest not getting too excited about this.

    As the article points out the government is setting up consultation centres to handle complaints. Redress from the courts, however, is nothing like what we see in Western cultures, let alone British, Australian, New Zealand, American or Canadian courts. In Japan, court cases are long, excessively-drawn-out affairs that do not generally reduce to simple answers. In fact, I'd hypothesise that many outside legal advisers would view the Japanese system as hopelessly hidebound.

    I think that the social pressures extant in Japanese society probably could develop into more effective constraints -- about the only aspects of the law that I think would be useful are the 'naming-and-shaming' ones, as bad publicity will lead to a direct and measurable loss of business.

    The thing is, DoCoMo might have had better luck in controlling this earlier by :
    • funding an ad campaign to its business customers on the 'evils' of cellphone/Net spam
    • taking aggressive, direct action to cut off abusers
    • consulting with other phone suppliers and retailers that deal with the business community
    • developing informal standards directly identifying spam ('ADV' or the equivalent) earlier
    • harping on and on and on -- media interviews separate from the ad campaign above


    If the phone companies are resorting to calling for help, they must have really lost control of the situation, as they generally don't like to take this route.
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  3. Removal by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I submitted some unlikely e-mail addresses for removal at a spammer's site (webmaster@fbi.gov, anyone)and still got a 'Your e-mail address has been removed' message. Think anyone's dumb enough to sell a database with that address? Probably.

  4. Spam by Vought+28 · · Score: 2, Informative

    If they outlaw spam, then they would have to outlaw phone solicitors (phone salesmen), door to door solicitors as well. This was already argued in a US court. The court ruled that people do indeed have to right to go door to door, including Johovah's Witnesses. What's the difference between a salesman calling you on the phone to sell you something and spam? Don't hate me because I'm stupid.

    1. Re:Spam by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1

      There's no satisfaction quite as complete as slamming the door on a pushy salesman or blasting a foghorn into a phone solicitor's ear. Hitting the Delete button really hard just doesn't cut it.

      Spam victims demand satisfaction!

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    2. Re:Spam by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
      What's the difference between a salesman calling you on the phone to sell you
      something and spam?


      Well, both are evil, and perpitrators of both go to the same circle of hell. But they get different infernal ZIP codes, because spam usually involves fraud (faked headers); and the costs of spam fall more on the recipient than the sender.

      There is regulation (at least in the U.S.) of telephone harassment^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hsales calls; they can only be made during certain hours, and the callers have to put you on their "do not call" list upon your request.

      There are also legitimate anti-door-to-door soliciting laws - if you put up a "no soliciting" sign, the Jehovah's Witnesses, the Fuller Brush man, and people doing door-to-door political campaining have to stay away. (Hmm, I ought to put one up.) So there is precedent for anti-spam regulation.

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    3. Re:Spam by phillymjs · · Score: 2

      What's the difference between a salesman calling you on the phone to sell you something and spam?

      If a salesman calls you on the phone, he or his company is paying for the call. Likewise, it doesn't cost you anything to open your door if someone knocks on it.

      What about cell phones where the call recipent is paying for the call, you ask? Well, there is an FCC prohibition of phone solicitation using auto-dialers or prerecorded messages to be sent to mobile phone users.

      When someone sends you spam, you're paying for the bandwidth used to receive it, period. Considering HTML-formatted spam often has a lot of image files that must be pulled down from a remote server, this can add up quickly-- my Hotmail account (which I do not use and have NEVER given the address of to ANYONE, though I do peek in it occasionally to see how much crap collects in it) gets buried in spam.

      The recipient-pays-for-the-bandwidth issue will be a bigger deal in the future as more people move to broadband. The way things are going, the greedy cable companies and phone companies will eventually meter their broadband offerings, to squeeze more money out of their customers while at the same time encouraging them to use the service less. Then they can keep overselling their existing network capacity like they've been doing, without having to do much to increase it.

      ~Philly

    4. Re:Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No. Multiple courts have ruled that spam is theft of service, theft by conversion, trespass to chattel and not protected by the First Amendment. It's not about content.

      Nobody has the right to force you to listen to his message or to take your property in order to get his message to you.

  5. Re:heh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol That's the best!!!!!

  6. Spam Subject Lines by Locke!Erasmus · · Score: 1

    I would love it if all Spam were required by law to come with ADV or SPAM in the subject line.

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  7. Valid reply address? by mrpepsi · · Score: 1

    Like they will spend the money to search out each and every violator who spams with a NON-valid e-mail address...

  8. Free speech vs. Commercial speech by 1qaz2wsx · · Score: 1

    The law in the US distinguishes between different types of speech, and places limits on different types of speech.

    Free speech does not allow you to yell "Fire" in a crowded place. If you try it, and you are prosecuted, you are going to loose if you attempt to claim that your actions were legal speech.

    Generally, telemarketers, door to door solicitors, and spam are trying to sell you something - this is known as "commercial" speech, and is much more regulated than other sorts of speech on topics like religion or politics. This is why, ultimately, religious and political groups, appeal and usually win, restrictions on non-commercial speech - telemarketers don't. In Colorado, they just started a statewide no-call list. All telephone solicitors are required to purchase the list and NOT call the numbers on the list, fines of up to $10,000 per offense are possible. The big loophole however, is that charitable, political, and established business relationships are excluded. The limits on charitable and politcal groups were added, knowing that they would be struck out on appeal if they had been included.

    In your door-to-door example, I believe that you have it backwards - the law was struck down because the religious group had a right to express their beliefs. If the law had been challenged by a salesman, it might/probably would have been different. Commercial speech is not afforded the same rights as protected forms of speech.

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  9. Rule 1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm starting to get concerned about the growing number of laws regulating spam. A lot of spam I get says "This email cannot be considered spam because it is in compliance with XYZ"
    1. None of the bills sited were ever passed into law
    2. None of the bills cited said what the spammers attributed to them
    3. None of the spam that I have seen citing the failed bills were compliant
    Rule 1: spammers lie
  10. Re: heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad the Yankees couldn't opt out of Pearl Harbor! And the Euros couldn't opt out of Hitler!

  11. It's the valid address I want by clovis · · Score: 1

    What bugs me about spam is the anonymous nature of the businesses. There is, for example, the practice of using false return addresses. What other business is allowed to lie about who they are?
    Suppose that your bank's employes all used fictitious names, and the bank had a habit of closing doors and moving, but usually advertised a false address. How long would they get away with that?

    That's what bugs me. The part that I can't understand is why does the legislature ignore our cries for relief? There's no money in it for them or the state, and I'm pretty sure they aren't hosting $1,000 a plate dinners for herbal Viagra merchants or the "add 2-4 inches" crowd.
    Or is it that the members of the legislature still in the 20th century and don't even know about the problem?

  12. Internet access is expensive in Japan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As far as I am aware, internet access is considerably more expensive in Japan than it is in the U.S.A. and in the U.K, (where I am). Also, for E-Mail sent to cell phones, it is usual to pay per message received.

    So, you can see why unsolicited E-Mail is a problem.