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ICANN's Time Is Up, According To John Gilmore

EyesWideOpen writes: "Salon has a lengthy interview with Cygnus Software co-founder John Gilmore about why he feels it's time for ICANN, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, to go. Gilmore, along with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, is currently helping to fund a lawsuit filed by ICANN director Karl Auerbach against ICANN. ICANN has denied Gilmore access to its financial information, providing the basis for the lawsuit. Gilmore states: 'I believe it's because there is information in there about how ICANN has misused its money, and/or has favored people who lent or gave it money.'"

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  1. John Gilmore is one of those net greats... by Sheetrock · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'd put him up there with Jon Postel (unfortunately deceased) as being one of those who really 'gets it' as far as the Internet goes. He's originated or been part of most great things (including the EFF, the alt.* newsgroups, and Cypherpunks). I don't agree with all of his concepts, such as spam being free speech, but he's been funding a project to permit intelligent spam filtering at the mailbox by comparing incoming mail's content to other mail you've said you liked/disliked.

    He's right on the money with ICANN, too, although I'm sure I don't need to go into a spiel as to why. But if you aren't familiar with him, you might want to take a look at his other work if you want to see some cutting-edge concepts that are in need of an innovator.

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  2. Gilmore's letter to ICANN director Cerf by q[alex] · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Damn... Every time I run into something that John Gilmore has done I get this shivery feeling down the back of my neck. Here's a guy who has just got it all figured out, way ahead of the rest of us... or at least way ahead of me.

    Err, but yeah. The reason I'm posting is because anyone who hasn't read Gilmore's letter to Vint Cerf really should... it's intelligent, funny and scathing. It's at http://www.icannwatch.org/article.php?sid=763 and it's brilliant.

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  3. P2P DNS, can it be done? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I CAN, U CAN, we all CAN get rid of ICANN!

    We need a P2P version of DNS. Of course it would be much worse in terms of performance but it's harder to buy thousands of people than it is to buy a dozen.

    Any ideas?

  4. Re:This is probably why they're introducing it by Raul654 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I strongly disagree with that statement. The professor for whom I am currently doing research did in part invent the internet, or at least a few important cornerstones. He is in no way corrupted - he is a realist and sees the internet as it is. I would think most of the founders of the internet are like him - they tend to shy away from the polical issues, prefering instead to focus their energy into the engineering side of it. When that happens, you create a power vacuum, and it pulls in just the kind of people John Gilmore is railing against.

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  5. Re:Corporate Governance Issue by PatientZero · · Score: 3, Interesting
    "Is it possible to have a minimalist organisation that is cheap, efficient and honest that can manage something like the Internet?"

    I do not know. However, if a board member begins to suspect that the organization is failing its charter due to, for example, over-spending on shady subcontracts, that board member has a responsibility and a right to check the books to see what's what.

    This is the case here, and the management -- which is supposed to be subservient to the board -- is blocking a board member's request to check the books. That raises red flags for me and obviously the EFF, Gilmore, and others. I agree that this should be against the bylaws of an international organization responsible for managing a world-wide public resource.

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  6. Time is definitely up. by chris_sawtell · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The domain names debacle needs sorting out - urgently. It is completely wrong
    that the administration of such an important trans-national medium as the
    Internet is in effect in the uncontrolled hands of just so few people.

    The 'Net is something of such international importance that no national
    interest, commercial or otherwise, should have any control whatsoever other
    than the delegated administration of the names registries of the
    individual countries.

    This, in effect, means that the only organisation which should be able to change
    either the underlying protocols or the top level domains is the United Nations

    My own feeling about top level domains other than the country ones is that they
    should be simply removed. Absolutely every legal entity has a home in some
    country somewhere or other. No more .com, .edu, .mil, .net, or .org. The names
    which belong to organisations based in the United States should be using the
    .us top level domain. There is, I suppose, the argument that there are a few,
    very few, genuinely international organisations which should have domain names
    not tied to any particular country. The International Red Cross is the kind of
    organisation which comes to mind as the type which has the moral right to the
    irc.org domain name. Similarly there is a genuine need for a single
    supra-national domain for the use of the Internet infrastructure as a whole. I
    thought that .net was intended for this, but it seems to have been polluted in
    the interests of commercial gain.

    The pollution of the .org space by hobby software projects is another case in
    point. While these are certainly very useful and worthwhile projects, and the
    groups of individuals are frequently located all around the globe, I really
    don't think they have much in the way of absolute moral right to be in the .org
    namespace. Perhaps they should have a fully international top level domain name
    of their own. Is it .gnu or .oss?

    The administration of domains which have been given away or sold by their
    countries should revert to the UN until the countries in question can do it for
    themselves. The very idea that the whole address space for an entire country
    can be traded away for the personal profit of an idividual is, in this author's
    opinion anyway, just plain wrong, and should be corrected as soon as possible.

    Similarly, while the enhancement of Internet security is sorely needed at the
    moment, no particular commercial interest should ever be able to hijack the
    whole exercise by introducing secret protocols protected by draconian
    intellectual property laws. The overall effect of this will be to give the
    particular patent holder the right to tax every Internet user, or indeed every
    single message.

    Is this really what we want?

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  7. Re:ICANN by danro · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So who is going to handle that then? The government?

    I wasn't aware there were a world government...
    oh, you mean the US should yet again directly control the root servers.
    Well, if that is what happens, I won't be surprised.

    The DNS system is the worst thing that has ever happened to the web.

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  8. Re:Hang on a second by JoeBuck · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Attacks against people like John Gilmore (or Richard Stallman) for refusing to be "reasonable" and compromise their principles remind me of this quote from George Bernard Shaw:

    A reasonable man adapts himself to suit his environment. An unreasonable man persists in attempting to adapt his environment to suit himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.

    This is not to say that Gilmore or Stallman are right about everything, they are not. But their effectiveness is associated with their refusal to abandon principle.