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Data Mining, Cocaine and Secrecy

hightimes writes: "Business 2.0 uncovers one of the world's most sophisticated IT network in where else, Colombia. According to the story, Colombian drug cartels have spent billions of dollars to build a huge infrastructure that's helping them smuggle more dope than ever before." Even though this is about a raid that took place most of a decade ago, it's an interesting example of the power (and potential abuse) of large-scale data mining.

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  1. One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    is the loneliest number that you'll ever do.

  2. Two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    is the lonliest number since the number one.

  3. Re:Technology is NOT the problem .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    duh, that's what data mining is. moron!

  4. -1, Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Someone mod this idiot down as a troll. All I see is a useful site on data mining. Moderators, check the link yourselves.

  5. DO YOU TROLLS NEVER GIVE UP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Damn it, mod this fool down as well. I see the guys from #trolls are out in full force tonight.

  6. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by pengu911 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I am dead serious. He has control of the itgo site and keeps changing it back to a porn picture off and on. He also registered alternate names (by by by by by) to make it seem like it isn't. I'm not saying you are, but the second time I went to the site (with images turned off) it redirected me to the governemt site.

  7. MOD PARENT -1, TROLL! by Anomolous+Cow+Herd · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Jeez, you trolls aren't even using convincing low-uid accounts. That's a real piss poor job that you're trying to pull off, trying to get this guy modded down. Give it a rest, everyone can tell that you're trolling.

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  8. Re:Technology is NOT the problem .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I think you are the moron.

    Data mining is a lot more than just 'looking at trends'. Look at that data mining site he linked to and educate yourself.

    Please read, get a clue, and then come back.

  9. please mods, listen to us by pengu911 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I am not a troll. You have 3 people who saw the picture, unfortuneatly two are anonymous, one (me) registered today. Doesn't it seem a tad suspicious that the link just redirects? halgary can change the page at any time. Please don't call me a troll. Look at the guy who posted this! This is his only post. Don't go off about me being a troll when you haven't seen the link when he first put it up.

  10. Re:MOD DOWN- NASTY PORN PICTURE by pengu911 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I agree with you, I saw the picture too. We need more credible people to get mods to believe us.

  11. TROLL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you think you can troll just because of your low UID, think again troll. The links in this comment are perfectly fine. Just ignore this man.

  12. Re:Well... by Verizon+Guy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You think that's bad? I have to use Windows Fucking 95 at work. Why? Cause I'm just a lowly software writer, not good enough like the pimp sysadmins in IT, I suppose. Oh well, they can suck my balls when I get a job somewhere else.

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  13. Re:MOD DOWN- NASTY PORN PICTURE by pengu911 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Please don't post any more nasty crap porn. Mods, please mod halgary's post down.

  14. Re:Technology is NOT the problem .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Ugh.... That's disgusting. Don't be fooled by his ".edu" link; it's a redirect....

  15. PARENT IS A TROLL! by electricmonk · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Yeah right. Hey, guess what? Just because you have a low uid doesn't mean that you're not a troll. Leave this guy alone, he never did anything to you.

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  16. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You don't look so tough. You've only got two hands.

  17. Re:Technology is NOT the problem .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This is true. The guy has not covered himself in mud. But, he is sitting in the bathtub, and has covered himself with something brown, wet, and smelly. You do the math.

  18. Re:What do IT workers read in columbia? by neocon · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    OTOH the FBI can now read this thanks to the war on "terrorism"

    So it's clear: you think the FBI should not be allowed to browse slashdot? Why not?

  19. Re:Idiot. by pengu911 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It works on mozilla too. (unfortunatly)

  20. please. by pengu911 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    actually he did. He lured me into looking at disgusting scat porn, and making me look like an idiot in front of everyone else after he took the picture down and redirected traffic.

  21. What does that have to do with anything? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It just proves that you know javascript and you have a poop-sex fetish and nothing else.

  22. Re:Read the article. It's chilling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Oh my god! That is chilling; people apparently have a much easier time getting recreational drugs now! Next thing you know people will be able to buy beer in grocery stores!

  23. Re:Article Revealing by stoolpigeon · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    It's funny you mention that because I think the whole Watergate thing was a set up and that they weren't caught by anything remotely like 'luck'.

    I was specifically thinking about Kennedy and the moon landing etc.

    The government can hide things- and they really need to quite a bit more often than many will admit around here.

    What grates at times is that so many here really cannot see both sides of the coin. They view these issues with a reflex rather than their minds. There are already tons of posts describing the article as propaganda to take away privacy and generate funds for the evil drug war.

    No thought is given that informed, reasonable citizens may not agree. Anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant- has bought into the lies- or has their own agenda.

    I wish some would think that there is the same chance of someone being intelligent, informed, reasonable and holding a different opinion as the chance of life elsewhere in the universe. I'm dead serious.

    Anyways that whole last part is not a reply to the watergate thing just a little rant I launched on after I was done replying- your response has a reasonable tone.

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  24. Troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This post is informative, why was it moderated troll?

  25. Re:Semi-OT: when did the 'war on drugs' start exac by rodgerd · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    The modern Western war on drugs began in the early 20th century with the banning of opium, cocaine, and dope (the latter of which was largely an exercise in the power of tabloid journalism).

    It began earlier in China, but the Chinese government's efforts to keep opium out of the country failed when the Western nations used their armed forces to ensure the viability of the opium trade.

  26. Crack by MicroBerto · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    This brings new meaning to people who want to "crack" into the system!

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  27. Kinda by Codex+The+Sloth · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    It's from a Simpsons episode entitled "The Computer Wore Menace Shoes" in which Homer "knows too much" and gets transported to an island which is a spoof of "The Prisoner" -- it even has a guest voice of Patrick McGoohan in it as one of the other prisoners.

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  28. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    right now im pounding the fucking thing as hard as i can...

    Press a button, kill a worthless junkie scumbag, get money - job and entertainment in one.

  29. Re:What's new... by Qubyte · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Ok...spelling 101
    It's COLOMBIANS...see the difference? Columbia is a state in the US...COLOMBIA is a different country...got it?

  30. Re:What's new... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


    OK you, you...spelling Nazi! Columbia is *not* a state in the US. Nya Nya Nya Pbbbttt!!!

  31. Re:Well... by bobdole369 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Hey get a job at my place, the software writers can get whatever they want. They figure IT = lowly computer repairmen. I have a crap p2-233 to work on (running nt4). Software writers have the 2.2ghz P4's with xp and a geforce 3. Seriously, we get no respect.

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  32. Re:Technology is NOT the problem .. by Burgundy+Advocate · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The first troll to get anything above a 0 mod point.

    You're kidding... right?

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  33. Re:Well... by Verizon+Guy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I have a crap p2-233 to work on (running nt4).

    You still beat me. I have a P/200 with 95. Jeez.

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  34. Trolling 101: Building the Perfect Troll by pwpbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A while back Don Henley created an album called Building the Perfect Beast His first solo album it surprised many with tracks like Sunset Grill All She Wants To Do Is Dance my favorite Driving With Your Eyes Closed and Jon Katzs favorite Boys of Summer I was listening to this album on illegallyripped MP3s while reading the Slashdot trolls and started brainstorming what would make the perfect troll This article serves as a directed introduction to building the perfect trollFirst we need to define trolling This is harder than it sounds because everyone has their own definition of a troll or better their own definition of a good troll I am going to use multiple definitions to create a very broad ideal of the term troll Any post that meets ONE of the definitions below is considered a trolla A message widely regarded as an annoyanceb A message which insults the editors with no regard to meritc A message which flames another user for their viewsd Any message which is designed to enrage the standard slashdot userFor the purposes of this post a good troll is one that spawns many angry responses There are other sides of trolling such as crapflooding which do not generate any responses usually These sorts of trolls are out of the scope of this articleThere are 6 dimensions of a good troll annoyance arguability subtlety topicality logicality and permeance By NO means should a good troll use only one dimension although some dimensions are inherently contradictory using as many as possible will result in a good trollAnnoyanceThis is the allstar of the troll spectrum Racial comments page wideninglengthing misinformation deragatory comments etc all are considered an annoyance But be careful The common pitfall is the annoyance is used to frequently and too loudly Subtlety is a necessity if you are going to use this with any sort of success read more about this below Here are some examples of good and bad annoyancesBad You stupid fucking nigger Im going to kick your faggot ass if I ever see you you shitface cocksucking animal This will be modded down immediately and will probably not be responded to This message will largely be ignored thus limiting the troll affectPosting factual inaccuracies is great when combined with annoyance the Slashdots will fall over themselves correcting your every moveGood Its posts like these that question the education system of America If you were paying any attention at school you would know that the South won the Civil War because of their views no slavery It was Abraham Lincolns last stand at Gettysburg that caused Slavery to go awayMaking references to your education as proof that you are right is excellent especially when in your troll you make it obvious that you dont have anyBad I studied this topic in great depth when writing my PhD thesis at MIT As it turns out the limiting factor of sorting function with completely randomized data Good Oh I took a class about this at the DeVry Institute According to the reseptionist notice intentionally bad spelling the integral of ex2 is ex so its got to be rightArguabilityPosts such as You fucking faggot Im going to kill you has no element of arguability You want to post a view in an inflammatory way that will incite a great argument There is a right way and a wrong way to doing this Usually if you are outright cursing at the poster or editor its the wrong wayExamplesBad You worthless piece of horseshit Your views are wrong jackassGood This study post link to mostly irrelevant and offtopic study indicates there is a strong correlation between deviance and Linux usersDrawing illogical conclusions based on incorrect statements is a great way to instate a nerd riot ExampleGood When ESR said that Windows is losing clientelle he used intentionally bad grammar which is inherent proof that his ideals are flawedPermeanceQuestion If a troll posts a troll and no one reads it is it still a troll Answer NoA troll can only have so much longevity I call this principle permeance Permeance is judged by the number of people who will see and read a post and to a lesser extent respond to it Good formatting grammar and spelling all contribute to a posts permeance but the real factor is contentMost of you spend a lot of time reading at 1 presumably so you will know that a fair amount of racist and antisemetic comments are posted Most Slashdot users will not see these because they are at 1 klercks PLP and PWP are ultimately a failure because few see themTo maximize permeance you have to 1 Sound like you now what you are talking about 2 Sound like you have a stake in your point of view maening you care about what you think and 3 Express it without homophobia any sort of racism and discrimination You will see that trolls at 1 and even 2 use this principle You will see that trolls at 0 and 1 do not use this principle This brings us toFirst Fundamental Theorem of Trolling Anonymous Cowards by definition rarely succeed in posting a good trollSecond Fundamental Theorem of Trolling If an AC succeeds in a good troll it would even be better if it were posted at 1 or 2 by default SubtletyCertain posts SCREAM This is a troll Please ignore it These are not successful trolls As a troll your every urge is to scream YOU FUCKING FAGGOT HOW CAN YOU THINK THE WAY YOU DO to the Slashbot homos Resist this at every cost You need to diplomatically insult them Its hard I know but it will result in success GOOD PHRASESYou should know by now that Havent you learned anything from eventWhat a stereotypical viewWas this post sarcasticI cant believe the level of ignorance of that point of viewTopicalityThis is a nobrainer and therefore Im not going to spend much time discussing it Why do you think BSD is Dying trolls rarely get responses when they are posted under one of Jon Katzs articlesLogicalityDid I make that word up Probably But its principle is still important use every logical fallacy that you know of when writing trolls Jump to illogical conclusions Misquote or misrepresent parents posts when responding Make references to studies linking them to a 404 not found page You get the idea This one isnt hard to introduce but its wildly successful in getting Slashcock responsesThis is a brief introduction to the good trolling Soon I will post an article about combining dimensions and look at some good and bad trolls in the past

    -pwpbot