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Web Designers Ignoring Standards and Support IE Only

Posted by ryuzaki0 on from the doesn't-that-burn-your-bottom dept.

An anonymous reader says "According to this story on news.com, it is becoming harder for users of Microsoft-free systems and browsers to view the web. This seems to be a new call to arms from the standards groups, and it is something we should be thinking about. Without help from web designers, using browsers like Mozilla and Opera will effectively cut off our ability to view web sites 'correctly.'" My pet peeve is when sites hype and announce new-and-improved sites, and then they come out and they are simply a gigantic flash application.

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  1. What about VisualStudio.NET? by Schnapple · · Score: 5, Informative
    Well if anyone out there has fooled around with VisualStudio.NET and its GridLayout mode then on a web server with the .NET extensions loaded (yeah yeah I know it's a Windows-only technology thus far) when the .aspx page is loaded the proper page is given to the client based on what browser they're using. Whatever trick you want is passed over as whatever the client will understand, be it VBScript, JavaScript or simple HTML links - whataver works. Whatever graphic layout you specify will come across as the correct DHTML specification based on the browser.

    I took a DHTML page I made in Visual InterDev that would simply not work in non-IE browsers and re-did it in VisualStudio.NET - it worked 100% perfect in all browsers (well, except Konqueror). Sure, not everything works or looks 100% right (some tricks I tried didn't have as good results but they did the job) but for all the fuss that Microsoft is trying to shut out non-IE users, .NET sure does seem to be doing a lot to try and keep all the browsers happy.

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  2. Re:Something's missing... by toupsie · · Score: 5, Informative
    "the best HTML editor is Notepad"

    Close. The best HTML editor, ever, is BareBone's BBEdit. It Doesn't Suck(TM)

    Its also one of the best Text Editors ever made, if not the best ever made.

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  3. Re:Personaly... by mlas · · Score: 5, Informative

    Two links of relevance:

    First, note this list of CSS bugs. Note that a number of valid markups CRASH NS4. That's why NS4 is a thorn in the side of standards compliance... otherwise valid code can flat-out cause the browser to tank. Not good. Just as a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, a little CSS compliance is a train wreck. In response to one of the above posts, I'd much rather code for Lynx than NS4. And I do code for IE, opera, Netscape 6, Mozilla...

    But there are workarounds, some painful, some quite painless. Go here for an FAQ on dealing with NS4.

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