Posted by
chrisd
on from the one-nation-under-god dept.
ross.w writes "Italian authorities have shut down five Internet sites which reportedly carried blasphemies against God and the Virgin Mary, following a complaint by the Vatican's newspaper.
The story is in this item on Australia's ABC News."
Re:The Vatican is killing thousands of Africans
by
praedor
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· Score: 2, Flamebait
Trying to tell people not to have sex is like telling them to stop eating. It IS necessary - no matter what you think. It is necessary and driven on an instinctual, biological imperative level. How else do you explain the "need" to murder men and women (most particularly and predominantly women) for having sex or sexual affairs in countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc? They are NEVER short of people to murder because they had sex (or even held hands for that matter). If the clear and present threat of being stoned to death post haste isn't enough to prevent the activity, simply admonishing against it on the false BELIEF that it is truly a open "choice" rather than a very powerful, basic DRIVE isn't going to work. Period.
Since "Just say no" DOESN'T WORK/CANNOT WORK (no matter what, there will be many, many people- the normal ones at that - who do it anyway). If you must, admonish against it but keep in mind that it is nonetheless a total and absolute right for people to have sex (a "choice" guided by biological imperative) and accept that reality. Thus teach birthcontrol because no matter what, there will always be a significant number of people who will do it no matter what you say. They have a right to do it and they have a right not be be murdered, directly or by proxy of WRONG and Dark Age nonsensical beliefs about the "evils" of birthcontrol and REAL disease prevention.
To conclude, the Vatican takes advantage of the ignorance and fear of many in the 3rd World by warning them of nonexistent hellfire and damnation if they use condoms, take a bc pill, etc. This is tantamount to murder. They KNOWINGLY use the ignorance and fear of the uneducated for the sake of "sexless" old white men (yeah right...boy-toy alterboys and homosexual priestly encounters have ALWAYS been a large part of the Catholic hierarcy "tradition").
-- In Bushworld, they struggle to keep church and state separate in Iraq as they increasingly merge the two in America.
Re:Disagree with censorship
by
junkgrep
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· Score: 2, Flamebait
---Christianity is founded on tolerance. We do not oppose any other religion or movement---
Wait, first you know nothing of Christianity being a religion... and now you're speaking for all Christians about what you do or do not do to "other religions or movements"?
That Chritianity is founded on tolerance is your particular take on it. But there is nothing inevitable about this interpretation: other believers see things differently, and non-believers see lots of both tolerance and intolerance in even just the Bible passages.
---Christianity is the oppressed and the intollerated.---
Come on: this is an off the wall claim. All sorts of groups are oppressed and intollerated at various times. Christianity was born during a time when it (being a minority, though this didn't stop inter-sect persecution) was, but when it became a majority, turnabout became fair play. Sometimes Christians are persecuted, sometimes Muslims are persecuted, sometimes atheists are persecuted. Christianity has no special claim on being singled out for persecution, especially not when for most of the last two centuries in the West, it's been doing the persecution. This doesn't mean that Christianity is, in every form, bad, but having been persecuted also doesn't prove that it, in any form, is specially good.
---we just show the truth.---
That's the crux of the matter, isn't it? You think your claims about Christ and so forth are true: others aren't convinced. So, here we are.
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Trying to tell people not to have sex is like telling them to stop eating. It IS necessary - no matter what you think. It is necessary and driven on an instinctual, biological imperative level. How else do you explain the "need" to murder men and women (most particularly and predominantly women) for having sex or sexual affairs in countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc? They are NEVER short of people to murder because they had sex (or even held hands for that matter). If the clear and present threat of being stoned to death post haste isn't enough to prevent the activity, simply admonishing against it on the false BELIEF that it is truly a open "choice" rather than a very powerful, basic DRIVE isn't going to work. Period.
Since "Just say no" DOESN'T WORK/CANNOT WORK (no matter what, there will be many, many people- the normal ones at that - who do it anyway). If you must, admonish against it but keep in mind that it is nonetheless a total and absolute right for people to have sex (a "choice" guided by biological imperative) and accept that reality. Thus teach birthcontrol because no matter what, there will always be a significant number of people who will do it no matter what you say. They have a right to do it and they have a right not be be murdered, directly or by proxy of WRONG and Dark Age nonsensical beliefs about the "evils" of birthcontrol and REAL disease prevention.
To conclude, the Vatican takes advantage of the ignorance and fear of many in the 3rd World by warning them of nonexistent hellfire and damnation if they use condoms, take a bc pill, etc. This is tantamount to murder. They KNOWINGLY use the ignorance and fear of the uneducated for the sake of "sexless" old white men (yeah right...boy-toy alterboys and homosexual priestly encounters have ALWAYS been a large part of the Catholic hierarcy "tradition").
In Bushworld, they struggle to keep church and state separate in Iraq as they increasingly merge the two in America.
---Christianity is founded on tolerance. We do not oppose any other religion or movement---
Wait, first you know nothing of Christianity being a religion... and now you're speaking for all Christians about what you do or do not do to "other religions or movements"?
That Chritianity is founded on tolerance is your particular take on it. But there is nothing inevitable about this interpretation: other believers see things differently, and non-believers see lots of both tolerance and intolerance in even just the Bible passages.
---Christianity is the oppressed and the intollerated.---
Come on: this is an off the wall claim. All sorts of groups are oppressed and intollerated at various times. Christianity was born during a time when it (being a minority, though this didn't stop inter-sect persecution) was, but when it became a majority, turnabout became fair play. Sometimes Christians are persecuted, sometimes Muslims are persecuted, sometimes atheists are persecuted. Christianity has no special claim on being singled out for persecution, especially not when for most of the last two centuries in the West, it's been doing the persecution. This doesn't mean that Christianity is, in every form, bad, but having been persecuted also doesn't prove that it, in any form, is specially good.
---we just show the truth.---
That's the crux of the matter, isn't it? You think your claims about Christ and so forth are true: others aren't convinced. So, here we are.