Latest Toast Update Combats Fair Use

gsfprez writes "Apparently, demanding future DRM installations isn't just for Windows anymore. Roxio has added a very Microsoft-esque paragraph to the Toast 5.1.4 upgrade. In part, if you install it, you 'may affect your ability to copy, display and/or play Secure Content through the Software or other applications that utilize the Software.' I'm sorry, but this is a big reason why I'm sticking with Apple, but looking for new CD/DVD burning software..." Let me know when you find it.

Comments

What about

[Aknaton]

CD-Record? It works on NetBSD and MacOS X is based on Unix.

Re:What about

[Caligari]

It also runs under win32 systems:

ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord/alpha/w in 32/

Re:What about

[mAIsE]

http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/cdrtoo ls

Thank you fink contributers!!

Re:What about

[greed]

I've been using cdrecord and mkisofs on Mac OS X for a while now. The latest alphas of cdrtools have full Mac OS X support--if Apple Disc Burning works, you can use it. So that gets you MMC SCSI, FireWire, IDE and USB recorders all in one. The device addresses are... different, but if you've only got one drive that's no problem either.

With very little work, I was able to take Schily's newest libraries from cdrtools and drop it in to cdrdao to get that going too. All because my FireWire recorder rips better than my SCSI recorder, and I got tired of booting into Linux just to copy.

The one oddity is the drive sharing stuff. Because you don't start these programs until AFTER you insert the disc, you get Finder's offer to prepare the disc. You have to tell Finder to ignore it, then hit continue in the really annoying "second bad disc dialog".

I'm going to update the programs so they reserve the drive and wait for the recorder to do tray close, if I can figure out how. Maybe someone else already has; it works well enough that I haven't looked for updates recently.

Go VPC and Virtual Dub as well.

[Zergwyn]

A smart thing to do would be to run Virtual PC. I have an OSX native copy (version 5.x) with Windows 2000 (as well as various flavors of Linux, not important here) and it is perfectly capable of emulating something with as low requirements as Nero quite well. As a general rule, I find that the emulation environment runs around half the speed of the processor as an equivalent P3, so an 800Mhz G4 would be a ~400 P3, give or take. If you have a duel machine this will be slightly higher, but the bigger advantage is devoting a processor to VPC and then being able to do a lot of other stuff.

Oh yeah, and along with Nero I would recommend people find a copy of VirtualDub. Fantastic program, PC only I think, but can convert between a LOT of different video formats quite well. Get the latest version here, but it also may be worth finding an old version around somewhere, 1.3 or something, because it can also convert ASF files to things like AVI/MPEG! Unfortunetly Microsoft strongarmed him to take out the feature, and I don't know if he has been able to put it back yet. Oh, and something many people here will appreciate, it is now GPLed!

Discribe

[firewort]

http://www.charismac.com/Products/Discribe/discrib edata.html

Discribe for OS X is a great product- simple, does the job, without DRM hassles.

Re:NeroMAX?

[petree]

In fact, neroMax was created. It was never available for download as a trial (like all other versions of Nero for PC), but only available for purchase. In fact it was actually bundled with some burners (Yahama Burners for example), but they never made a version for OSX. Their website said it required MacOS 8.6-9.2 and Classic API with Mac OS X is not supported. So even if this was available still, this wouldn't be a solution (certainly no better than running an older version of toast without these restrictions). But if you are interested in it I know there are copies of it floating around on hotline and on IRC that you could pick up and try out. I don't know that much about the Mac version (only used it once) but I know that their Windows product is far superior to all other burning applictions. By a long shot.

Use Apple's own...

[DuckWing]

Use Apple's own Burn program. It's part of OS X and interfaces with iTunes. You don't have to look very far, or did you look at all?

A Very Simple Solution

[errxn]

Don't upgrade.

Toast does NOT CONTAIN DRM Software

[Aqua OS X]

This was posted to VerionTracker.com last night.

I am the Toast product manager. I wanted to set the facts straight with respect to the 'Restrictions' section in the end user license agreement (EULA) that is displayed at installation of Toast 5.1.4 and Jam 5.0.1 (both the latest versions of our software). 1) Toast and Jam do not include any digital rights management (DRM) software. 2) Toast and Jam do not dynamically download and update any software on your system, either automatically behind the scenes, or upon your request. 3) Toast and Jam do not store and collect any personally identifiable information about you or what you record, or transmit anything to Roxio, any of its partners, or any content provider. 4) Toast and Jam do not restrict you from recording any content that you have the legal right to use. Toast and Jam use the same EULA that Roxio's PC burning product, Easy CD Creator, uses. Easy CD Creator leverages aspects of Windows Media Technology, which does include DRM components. Hence, the language in the EULA. Our EULAs are shared across both products because it saves time and money with respect to legal, documentation and translation into multiple languages. So no need to worry. All is well with Toast. Thank you for your continued support. Regards, The Toast Product Manager BTW - yes, you'll see that I have given our product 5 stars. I couldn't resist.

Can someone update this story or what? Moreover, next time I adise -using- this software before posting a rant to slashdot ;)

Get 5.1.3 here:

[azav]

http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/Products/en/To ast/Titanium/v5/Toast_513_Ti_Updater.hqx

The last update without DRM

You may also want to investigate Discribe. It doens't have DRM.