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New Palm Pictures?

New Palm writes "It looks like pictures of a new Palm os5 device codenamed 'Oslo' have hit the web. www.pocketpcthought.com had them up, but after a phonecall from Palm's Director of Global Information Security, pulled the pictures. A number of people are mirroring them. Looks semi-legit - but who knows, and who knows how long the images will stay up?

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  1. Looks like a minipalm. by inkfox · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Aesthetically, that's a good way to make a small screen look even smaller. Cinching the sides like that draws a perceptual barrier between the screen and the writing area, making the thing look unusably small, even if the profile hasn't changed.

    This might swell well in Japan where smaller is seen as better, but it seems more likely to stay on the shelves in the US for average consumers.

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  2. Apple iPod/Palm hybrid? by theolein · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This might of course just be one of those attempts to troll /., but that jog wheel in the lower portion of the device looks very much like Apple's iPod control wheel. Given that there have been many rumours of Apple/Palm cooperation and that Palm OS5 is supposed to have all sorts of new features, examples of which are improved QuickTime compatibility, and possibly inclusion of Apple's Ink handwriting technology, there could be some basis to these rumours. Apples' cracking down on rumour websites, as well as Palm offsetting risks to Apple entering the PDA market would be further grounds for interesting news next week at the MWNY.

  3. PalmOS 5 is a non-event by g4dget · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You can already run the emulator if you really care. But why would you? PalmOS 5 on ARM will run applications in interpreted 68k code; only the kernel will run in native ARM code (and maybe a few assembly routines you hand-code yourself). That means it will likely not run faster. It also doesn't look like there is going to be a lot of new functionality. Altogether, I don't see much reason to hold my breath for these devices. In terms of nifty hardware, the Sony's are hard too beat (although they are not the most reliable).

    1. Re:PalmOS 5 is a non-event by bcombee · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, Palm OS 5 runs all of the OS calls in ARM mode, so 68K programs that run on OS 5 devices will be quite a bit faster. The only apps that run slower are ones that require a lot of calculation in the app itself, and even those were running at 70% of full speed going from a 33MHz 68K to a 75MHz ARM. Apps that used lots of OS calls were sped up from 3 to 10 times, according to presenters at PalmSource 2002.

    2. Re:PalmOS 5 is a non-event by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Whatever you tool. No one will ever forgive you for the trojan.

      For those who don't know:
      This guy was one of the developers of Liberty, a commercial Gameboy emulator for PalmOS. Unfortunatly, he spent more time figuring out how to keep people from ripping him off than he did on making the emulator useful. For a long time he hung around #pdawarez on EfNet as |HaCkMe| learning about how PalmOS apps were cracked.

      Well of course, Liberty was cracked and ardiri here got pissy and released a new version (this one had sound..oooooo). But, at the same time, he released a "crack" for the application which was actually a PalmOS trojan that would nuke all of the apps on your Palm. He made all sorts of excuses after releasing it, even tried to claim releasing it was an "accident" and saying it would be "professional suicide" to release something like this to the public. Newsflash Ardiri: Professionals don't write trojans.

      Anyway, take what this guy says with a very large grain of salt. He's a proven liar and trojan coder. Don't believe me? Aaron, don't even bother trying to deny or refute this. Google's cache of the SANS advisory, the cache because otherwise you have to register to view it.

      NO ONE WILL EVER FORGIVE YOU.

  4. Most likely a fake by niola · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This device appears to be a fake - seems very contradictiva of what Palm has been saying.

    First off, they pretty much told everyone that new product releases would slow to a crawl for a bit. Two reasons for this. One is that they have a LOT of inventory they want to discount and move. Sitting on inventory is bad. The other reason is that PalmOS 5 just got out of beta and released to licensees on June 10th. Don't forget that PalmOS and Palm Hardware operate as seperate entities, therefore the hardware group gets treated just like any other licensee.

    I seriously doubt that Palm would release another device using the older OS as long as they are sitting on product.

    Just my $.02...

    --Jon

  5. Collapse by sehryan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    To me, it looks like the lower half will be able to slide up to cover the graphiti area. That would make it have a pretty high "whoa" factor, but honestly I don't think it would lend itself to being very productive.

    Not that I have ever been all that productive with graphiti.

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  6. Re:picture mirror by inkfox · · Score: 1, Interesting
    Can you still be a karma whore even when you're at the cap?
    Ah, but they hide the numbers now. The range may well have changed too.

    How do you know if you're at the cap?

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  7. Re:A couple of points by browman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hard writing area is good, because you don't f*ck up a bit of the screen you need to look at. Think about it, your PC keyboard has greasy pawprints all over it, your screen doesn't, that's the way it should be...

    My PocketPC is pretty well scratched up on the input area, so I've switched back to my old PalmIII which fared much better and got vastly more use. Might invest in a nicer one, but that hard area is a good idea... don't knock it...

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  8. Why this isn't a Pshop job by Diamon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you look at the image here you lose the photoshop tell tails on the edges. Also look at the flash reflechtion on the screen particularly at the top where you can see a fingerprint smudge. If it is a fake there's far more work in making it look real than was necessary.

  9. Re:Why doen' by yog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Perhaps a rep as a game device would hurt Palm, but there are certainly good uses for that 4-way rocker switch beyond games. For example:

    Spreadsheets--at last, we have a way to navigate intuitively, up-down as well as left-right.

    Image display--obvious use is navigating and selecting thumbnails

    Options and Preferences--navigating tabs and operating various kinds of controls.

    Gosh I'm too tired to think this morning but probably there are hundreds of other potential applications. Overall this seems like a positive development that adheres more or less to the K.I.S.S. philosophy.

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  10. It's a fake by cthlptlk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can't remember where, but I've definitely seen those pictures--the little girl with face paint and the hats on the wall--long ago. My first instinct is that they're part of the Photoshop 3.0 tutorial materials.

  11. game-playing on PDAs by GlenRaphael · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Finally a Palm with a button layout that can be useful for games! This has taken too long!

    That's like someone bemoaning the fact that a GameBoy does not ship with good software for organizing business contacts.

    Ericsson actually funded a company in late 1999 around the idea of making a better Gameboy that was also a decent personal information management device. With great 3-d graphics, Bluetooth connectivity, a notepad, datebook, etcetera. The company was called Red Jade, and I was the guy they hired to write the PIM functionality.

    Red Jade lost funding and died in the big crash of 2000, but it was a fun ride while it lasted.

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