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nForce2 Preview

An anonymous submitter writes "I noticed that a review of NVIDIA's nForce2 chipset has been posted here. From what I can gather the chipset contains two 10/100 ethernet controllers, six USB 2.0 ports, UltraATA133 support, three 1394 ports, five PCI slots, and an integrated GeForce4 MX core including NVIDIA's nView technology and a TV Tuner." Tom's Hardware and NVNews also have looks at it.

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  1. remember: it's not a geforce4! by imr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    On the topic of current Nvidia cards:

    Do not buy a GeForce4-MX for Doom.

    Nvidia has really made a mess of the naming conventions here. I always
    thought it was bad enough that GF2 was just a speed bumped GF1, while GF3 had
    significant architectural improvements over GF2. I expected GF4 to be the
    speed bumped GF3, but calling the NV17 GF4-MX really sucks.

    GF4-MX will still run Doom properly, but it will be using the NV10 codepath
    with only two texture units and no vertex shaders. A GF3 or 8500 will be
    much better performers
    . The GF4-MX may still be the card of choice for many
    people depending on pricing, especially considering that many games won't use
    four textures and vertex programs, but damn, I wish they had named it
    something else.

    (all this comes from carmack's .plan:
    http://webdog.org/plans/1/ )

    It seems nvidia is going the same road as intel and sis with their cheap video-on-board motherboard. All of them sucked! Good luck!

  2. Re:Why two ethernet controllers? by dattaway · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The "controllers" are just a few extra pins out of hundreds on the chip. A very tiny patch of real estate is lost if you don't use it. A great amount of circuit board real estate is gained if you do use it as it only requires a few tiny inductors and connectors to impliment it.

    I'd want to see a few more controllers on the chipset myself. What's another milliwatt and a few more pins among friends? Imagine the clustering potential of these chipsets...

  3. Re:MX Core? by ghjm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm guessing that when you buy a computer, you aren't spending your own money.

    The nFORCE concept is to capture low-end market share by providing much better specs than the alternatives, for people who are price-constrained. Suppose you had $400 to build a computer (not including the monitor). The nFORCE architecture is by far the best deal you can get. At this price point, a GeForce4 Ti was never in the cards anyway.

    What nVIDIA has recognized is that the traditional price points for high-end ($3000+) or even midrange ($2000+) PCs have gone the way of the dodo. Ultra-cheap PCs are such a good deal for the majority of buyers that that's where most of the market share is going to be in a few years, if it isn't there already.

    -Graham

  4. Re:Tom's Hardware by Pulzar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    DDR400 "corresponds to a performance level that SDRAM could only achieve at 400 MHz,"

    Why is this inaccurate? DDR400 is DDR running at 200MHz, which is equivalent to SDR running at 400MHz.

    --
    Never underestimate the bandwidth of a 747 filled with CD-ROMs.
  5. Re:MX Core? by GoSpeedRacerGo · · Score: 3, Interesting


    WOW! Someone that really gets what is amazingly cool about nForce. The only Dolby Digital 5.1
    _encoding_ solution in this market (other than Xbox). Not via, not intel, not creative
    soundblaster, not Playstation2, and not gamecube.

    What happens when you play a game with your Audigy 5.1 hooked up to your dolby digital
    receiver via coaxial/optical digital hookup???

    Two channel stereo! Ha!

    They talk 5.1 all over the box and conveniently leave out that it is for _decode_ of pre-encoded
    material only (i.e. DVDs).