OpenGL 1.4 Spec Finalized
Sesse writes: "SGI announced yesterday that the OpenGL 1.4 specification was agreed upon by the ARB. Trying to minimize the gap between D3D8 and OpenGL, the standard adds a lot of functionality already common (being exposed as extensions in many drivers today), but more importantly brings a standard specification for vertex shaders. This should be good news for anybody doing cross-platform eyecandy :-)" This announcement is related to, but broader than, the one mentioned earlier about bringing OpenGL to mobile devices.
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SGI is still in charge?
While I am as excited as the next geek about the new OpenGL spec, I'm worried about the impact on Linux.
No doubt Micro$hit has already incorporated OpenGL into Winblows X[tra]P[oopy]. But it will be months before the kernel hackers at Linux can reverse engineer it and cobble together a Linux driver.
I'm afraid that this kind of thing just drives people away from Linux. Rather than being dependent on these kinds of proprietary "standards," we should work on our own Open Source 3D standard and give it away as Free Software. We will not port it to Windows, and then we will get all of the game companies to write their games for it, and Linux will become the next big gaming platform.
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Finally, now the T&L unit in my cell phone can be fully used! I was afriad I would have to use DX on my phone for a while there ;)
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Afraid this is all a case of too little, too late. John Carmack announced in a recent .plan file that once protoype versions of the Doom III engine are up and running, the core rendering code will be ported to DirectX 9, and the Mac OSX version ditched (along with the Linux version) due to poor sales. Anyone else got any news on this?
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what happened to opengl 2.0? these fuckers are sure taking their sweeat horse apple munching time.
maybe you can get more info on opengl 2.0 here or here.
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Fine, fine, 1.4 is good and all that, but OpenGL 2.0 is where it's REALLY at (as far as game development goes). I'm waiting for the ARB to finally admit that there's two distict uses for GL: CAD and Games. So why not split them off? Well, where would the pressure to extend GL come from if Carmack and Co. weren't shoving Quake N down the IHV's throats? ;-)
Then again, remember MiniGL?
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Microsoft has a lot of money to throw behind Direct3D. This means that it can hire the best programmers and so Direct3D will obviously be the most successful technology in the future. OpenGL is maintained by a disorganised bunch of hobbyists. How is it supposed to compete with Direct3D?
But SGI sold some of their patents to Microsoft, and I have to wonder if any of them will cause problems for OpenGL 1.4. You know Microsoft isn't about to let OpenGL dominate as the standard for 3-D graphics...
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It's religious, irrational zealots like you that give Linux a bad name. As long as people fear Microsoft's technology/support, Linux will never gain prominence.
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It is the best news for linux, despire M$ owning GL. The technological advance in GL could have only came from the power of opensource. Lets see M$ try this with Windows XP! GL in linux makes DVD playing even easyer! Blah blah Insert More BS Here, blah blah blah,Insert More BS Here.
we should work on our own Open Source 3D standard and give it away as Free Software
This is exactly what OpenGL is. An Open specification so that any the same 3D code can run on any hardware/platform/OS.
If it is Open, and succesfull, don't worry, MS will implement it. That's why there is the ICD mechanism on Windows, that all vendors respect.
On Linux, you have the OpenGL ABI that provides the same functionnality. Yes, they would need some more people, but the one they have do a good job.
Now, when you are Open like this, be prepared for competition. The new standard is out, people on the Architecture Review Board have been discussing it for quite a long while. You better have your implementation ready. Or people will go to better support platform.
What you propose is exactly what MS always did : shun away from standards, and try to develop stuff for your platform/OS. The only difference is that you don't have enough market share to do *any* difference.
So, please, cut your crap, follow the standard, and may the best hardware run on the OS with the better/faster support for it.
At the moment, Linux is still in the race (for OpenGL support) and superior in other area. Don't give up.
He didn't say that. Instead, he wrote:
I am now committed to supporting an OpenGL 2.0 renderer for Doom through all the spec evolutions.
How does the M$ patent sabre rattling affect this?
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Although OpenGL at times progresses slowly, it's great to see SGI and the ARB actually getting back in the loop and going after D3D. By trying to compete with D3D, it will truly help the future of OpenGL, plus help alternative OS's have 3d software (i.e. Linux, BSD's, and MacOS X).
I'm not sure if this is an attempt at humour or what, but just in case people take it seriously:
.plans going back to last year sometime, Opengl is still used entirely and will be in future)
John Carmack has never suggested changing to using DirectX, and has always supported ports to other systems.
(According to his
There will probably not be a retail box version of linux Doom3, but a binary port will be releasd as usual, as for the Mac.
The most advanced video cards right now are being made for gaming. CAD people will do just fine using a subset of what the gamers use.
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This was a PR error by SGI.
The vote has NOT been completed yet.
FUNK!
1. MS does not own OpenGL - it is an open standart
2. MS can not enforce any patents they bought from SGI because when a feature is added to OpenGL all ARB members agree to give their relevant patents under an "ARB Contributor License"(or something like that).
3. MS will have a hard time enforcing any new patents. To quote Neil Trevett from 3Dlabs:
"To affect the creation of a specification, an IP claim must make it impossible to create ANY implementation of the specification that doesn't infringe that IP." You can not patent antialiasing/multitexture/shaders/etc, you can patent only specific alghos that implement that functionality.
I looked at the opengl.org site, as well as sgi.com and mesa3d.org, but the most recent spec I can find is for OpenGL 1.3
Has the spec been released, or is it only available to ARB members?
Does anyone know a good source for updated development tools (sdks)?
<a href="http://www.opengl.org">www.opengl.org</a> seems a touch or two out of date, linking only to old SGI and MS sdk's (1.2's?). even 1.3's would be a fresh relief.
my opengl coding could use a breath of fresh life.
thanks
myren
Since SGI got the GPL religion, for them to have agreed to the inclusion of the technology in the specification implies that they think the patent is not enforcible, and that their license is still valid.
It would be nice if SGI would state a position on this and clear up the fud, wouldn't it?
-- Terry
What implication does this have on hardware ? Do I now need a new gfx card ? what about opengl 2.0 ? Obviously my card (gf4) supports shaders etc. in hardware ... so the hardware
functionality is there. ???