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Spheral Solar Technology Approaching Reality

CactusMan writes: "A technology previously owned by Texas Instruments and then Ontario Hydro, Spheral Solar Technology is 'a low-cost alternative [to conventional solar cell technologies] involving flexible, lightweight solar cells comprised of thousands of tiny silicon spheres in an aluminum foil, which can be "formed and applied to virtually any curved or flat surface."' Automated Tooling Systems has just received $29.5 million (Canadian) to bring the technology to commercial viability. Read the article here or go directly to the Spheral site."

23 comments

  1. excellent by tps12 · · Score: 1

    I've always dreamed of travelling to the sun in a sphere.

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    1. Re:excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'll be a bit crispy.

    2. Re:excellent by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      More like a bit dusty. Before the dust burns, that is.

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  2. the not so distant future by DopeThrone · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    wife: "honey, shut the computer down, the power meter's at low" husband: "christ, i just bought a fusion power plant too, and i was gonna blow it up and reak havoc all over my city" wife: "well your the damn moron who spent all his money on these stupid solar power cells"

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  3. Tinfoil hats in now in! by eyepeepackets · · Score: 2

    A billion geeks walking around in aluminum foil hats powering their wearable electronic tools and toys.

    So why didn't Orwell see that one?

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    1. Re:Tinfoil hats in now in! by multiplexo · · Score: 1

      Cool. Now I can power my PDA, cell phone and iPod and keep the government mind control rays out of my head!

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  4. Geek foil hats, but now with spinning propellers by freerangegeek · · Score: 1

    What's the time to market for a cap with a solar powered beanie propeller?

  5. Efficiency? by DustMagnet · · Score: 2
    Did any one find out how efficient this material will be?
    I searched up and down on the site and found some really cool stuff. It's very light and very durable, but no specs. Normally when someone talks about a new solar panel, they mention the efficiency. I'm worried it might be really low, so they hid it.

    I've been wishing for low cost solar panels all my life.

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    1. Re:Efficiency? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 3, Informative

      Looking around the net with google I found this link that indicates 8 to 10% efficiency. This is fairly low when compared to standard solar cells ( see CNN article ) which indicates 40% efficiency. Although spheral solar cells aren't as efficient, since they can be used in places where regular solar cells can't, any efficiency is better than none at all.

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    2. Re:Efficiency? by DustMagnet · · Score: 1
      Please don't all gang up on me.
      I was just worried the panels might have about 1% efficiency. You have to admit that at some point it becomes silly to even bother.

      That said, I think 8-10% is great (maybe higher as they refine the process). Why don't they admit it up front? Since the rest looks pretty cheap to make, lets hope they have a cheap way to make little silicon balls, because I'm going to need lost of electricity to run my cheap digital wall paper (another dream I hope to see in my lifetime).

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    3. Re:Efficiency? by Red+Rocket · · Score: 1


      I'm going to need lost of electricity to run my cheap digital wall paper (another dream I hope to see in my lifetime).

      OK. Your wait may be near and end. The floppy TV is coming.

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  6. Travelling to the sun in a sphere by dpilot · · Score: 1

    In that case, read "Sundiver" by David Brin. Good book, first of the first Uplift Trilogy. (Though IMHO the second book, "Startide Rising" was better, and the third, "The Uplift War" was somewhat weak.

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  7. Even... by mindstrm · · Score: 2

    if they aren't as efficient as conventional cells, if they are a lot cheaper to produce, and more durable, useful in more environments, etc.... then it works out.

    The problem isn't so much the efficiency of current cells as it is the cost.

  8. Who cares: only energy pay-back counts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Efficiency in terms of power converted (ie. Watts/square metre) is not as important as Watts per dollar and Watts per energy input in maufacturing (somewhat linked since much of the cost in normal PV manufacturing is energy cost).These have been the two major stumbling blocks of PV.

    Watts per dollar is the make-or-break decision for individuals. If the price is right then why should I care if the whole house needs to be covered in PV tiles? I need to put tiles on the roof anyway.

    Energy input is very important at larger scales. Normal PV has an energy payback period of around ten years (maybe a bit less now). ie. The PV device takes ten years to make the energy it toook to make the damn thing. Standard PV gets cut from highly purified wafers which take tens of hours to make, then dope and cure, at high temperatures. We're talking lots of energy. Think now. Say congress etc decided to convert 5% of the USA's electricity to solar in one year - bugger the cost. That would need 50% (ie. 5% * 10 years) of the USA's entire electricity prodiuction. In an age of rolling blackouts that would mean first building a whole bunch of power stations. The power to achieve the conversion just is not available. Lets say though that the this new Spherical stuff has an energy pay-back of 1 year. Suddenly that 5% only needs 5% of the energy production - much more achievable. This spherical stuff could well be much lower in energy use since it does not use wafer technology.

    1. Re:Who cares: only energy pay-back counts by UranusReallyHertz · · Score: 1

      They use the concept of tons of silicon per megawatt. They say this tech uses 9 tons per megawatt, and hope to get it dowm to 2. Normal PV panels use 20 to 40 tons per megawatt, so if energy consumption is proportional to the silicon used, these are a BIG imrovement.

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    2. Re:Who cares: only energy pay-back counts by pfdietz · · Score: 1

      Just as important as the amount of silicon is the kind of silicon. Metallurgical grade silicon is much cheaper than semiconductor grade silicon. IIRC, the spheral technology tolerates lower grade silicon -- when the silicon solidifies in the little spheres the impurities tend to concentrate on an outer layer, which they grind away.

  9. Re:Efficiency? 40% is BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    They're only getting 32% in the lab. Much less once a bird has shat on the device. They're using gallium arsenide - Bill gates could not afford to power his house with this stuff.

    The stupid thing about PV research is that more money gets put into chasing the percentages with wierd compounds rather than trying to achieve something that is useful.

    The Aussies have the solar challenge - a showcase for PV. Unfortunately, again, the focus is on spending bazzillions of dollars in making expensive cars - which does not help make PV a real-world energy solution.

  10. Re:Efficiency? 40% is BS by pfdietz · · Score: 1
    The stupid thing about PV research is that more money gets put into chasing the percentages with wierd compounds rather than trying to achieve something that is useful.

    High efficiency, high cost PV cells are useful, in two applications: (1) on spacecraft, and (2) in concentrator systems with high (500x, say) concentration factors. For the latter you want to get as much energy as you can to defray the cost of the optics and tracking hardware, so you want the PV cells to be as efficient as possible (and since the concentration is so high you can afford to spend a lot per unit cell area.)

    Gallium arsenside is also useful in space because it can be made much thinner (hence, lighter) than silicon, and because it doesn't lose efficiency so quickly as it gets hot (for spacecraft on solar orbits bringing them closer to the Sun than 1 AU).

  11. Was it just me ... by Sanga · · Score: 1

    ... or were there others that thought there was spelling error in the title?

    I have been on /. too long :-)