.NET for Apache

PerlGuy was so kind as to forward us the news about the joint Apache/Microsoft combined press conference scheduled from Wednesday at the OSCON Quote: "We will announce news related to the Apache web server and Microsoft's development technology, .NET. This should be one of the biggest announcements of the conference..." The email he recieved: Covalent Technologies will be holding a press conference at the O'Reilly Conference on Wednesday at 3:15 in suite 415 (during the afternoon break). We will announce news related to the Apache web server and Microsoft's development technology, .NET. This should be one of the biggest announcements of the conference and an interesting follow up to Microsoft's appearance last year at the show as well as to their general comments on open source. Executives will be on hand to answer questions or to conduct one-on-one interviews after the announcement.

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Slashdoted already!

[Frank of Earth]

OSCON has already been slashdoted! ;-)

Re:Don't scream

[torinth]

Can I download compilers that target .NET (ie, the CLR) from Microsoft for free (gratis) like I can the Java SDK from Sun?

Yes, so get off your ignorany little pony and open your eyes. Conecpts behind open source and free software are permeating *every* company these days, so although they may not release Windows under the ownership-stripping GPL, even Microsoft recognizes that to be competitive in some markets (web browsers like IE, Graphic API's like DirectX, and ystem-neutral platforms like .NET), even they need to give stuff away for free.

You are free to download the ".NET SDK", link it into an XEmacs mode and develop all you want for the CLR. If you happen to want a full-fledged high-quality IDE and an amazing documentation browser along with it, you'll need to dish out a few dollars for Visual Studio.NET, but the compiler and libraries are in fact, free.

-Andrew

Re:Don't scream

[Malcontent]

Mono is nothing. It's in it's infancy and is at least three years away from being production quality. It probably will never get there due to MS patents.

By the time Mono is mature MS will have dropped .NET for next big acronym of the day.

Re:A link to the article would have been nice...

[Pig Hogger]

Who is the fucking moron who moderated this as "offtopic"?

"Overrated"

[AJWM]

Interesting. I post that at my default score and it gets modded down twice as "overrated". I guess there are a couple of .NET zealots(*) out there with mod points tonight. They could at least have picked something imaginative like "troll" or "flamebait", but I guess "overrated" tends to be safer from meta-moderation.

((*) Anyone who has seen the Microsoft double-page ad in the last few issues of InfoWorld will understand why I'm using this word.)

Oh well, since I can't mod it back up, I'll quote it here for the benefit of anyone reading at >=1 and wondering what all the comments are to:
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I daresay [Java]'s every bit as proprietary as .NET,

Oh? Is there an equivalent to the Java Community Process for .NET? Can I download compilers that target .NET (ie, the CLR) from Microsoft for free (gratis) like I can the Java SDK from Sun?

Java may be, strictly speaking, proprietary, but it is nowhere near "every bit" as such as anything from Microsoft.

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As it turns out, you can download some (EULA-limited) compiler from Microsoft. Doesn't matter, my main point was about the JCP (Java Community Process).

Re:Don't scream

[AJWM]

Wow, now it's 2 "overrated" and a "flamebait" -- even though none of the 8 responses is a flame.

Go ahead, waste your mod points. ;-)

Re:WTH?!?!?

[bmajik]

it is difficult for my tiny brain to avoid resorting to good old fashioned insults, but inspite of your galactically ignorant post, im going to do my best.

1) MS never said anything about OpenSource and cancer. It was GPL. GPL != OpenSource. Read the fucking articles and understand MS's point of view. MS is more than thrilled with BSD code and other non-ip-destroying licenses. They are not happy with GPL and they (correctly) point out that GPL infects everything it touches because it is viral in nature. This is not a debatable point, unless you just dont get GPL.

2) White flag on IIS ? IIS is a highly performant webserver that has a huge market share and is dirt easy to setup. It has a large selection of ISAPI applications and all kinds of software relies on it in ways that apache does not provide out-of-box (NTLM client auth for instance, or multiple hosted vdirs running with separate credentials but not using fork/suexec)

IIS is not dead. It's not even sick. I think you and the rest of the world will be pleasantly (or unpleasantly if you're an anti-ms zealot) surprised with IIS in the coming year.

Incidentally, you assume a lot of stuff about microsoft that is wrong, which makes you kind of an idiot. If microsoft has never done anything to help any apache or open source effort, why did they fly a few of the zend people into redmond for a week, having them perf tune php on iis ? Why is there a mod_frontpage for apache that microsoft publishes ?

If you want to hate microsoft, thats your choice. But really, please try and do a credible, intelligent job at it. Responding to sophomoric hip shot posts about Microsoft-this and microsoft-that which contain nothing but baseless opinion, speculation, and outright falsehoods gets irritating.