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PerlGuy was so kind as to forward us the news about the joint Apache/Microsoft combined press conference scheduled from Wednesday at the OSCON Quote: "We will announce news related to the Apache web server and Microsoft's development technology, .NET. This should be one of the biggest announcements of the conference..." The email he recieved: Covalent Technologies will be holding a press conference at the O'Reilly Conference on Wednesday at 3:15 in suite 415 (during the afternoon break). We will announce news related to the Apache web server and Microsoft's development technology, .NET. This should be one of the biggest announcements of the conference and an interesting follow up to Microsoft's appearance last year at the show as well as to their general comments on open source. Executives will be on hand to answer questions or to conduct one-on-one interviews after the announcement.

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  1. Re:Don't scream by TheAncientHacker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes and Yes. Go to http://www.asp.net and you can download compilers and participate.

    Sorry to disillusion you.

  2. Re:Don't scream by ryants · · Score: 5, Informative
    Conecpts (sic) behind open source and free software are permeating *every* company these days
    Uhm... you clearly don't understand the concepts behind open source and free software at all if you think that giving away compilers falls even remotely in the same category.
    under the ownership-stripping GPL
    All code under the GPL is copyrighted (owned) by the person (or group, or organisation) that wrote the code. GPLed code has owners. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
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  3. Re:WTH?!?!? by karlm · · Score: 5, Informative
    Java is a stupid slow language

    I'm too lazy to bring up the ./ article, but there were some benchmarks less than a year ago showing that for most applications (graphical I/O being the notable exception), the latest IBM JIT JVM outperforms C++ using the MS VC++ compiler with the default optimizations.

    I'll agree that sometimes the JVM takes forever to load, but the latest IBM JIT JVM continuously profiles your code and then does the equivalent of compiling the most commonly run parts with all of the optimizations turned on. I would guess that C++ does better relative to Java on non-x86 platforms, at least if you're using one of the older JITs. This is becuase the register-starved x86 looks pretty much like a stack-based machine in comparison to say the IBM POWER, HP PaRISC, or Sun SPARC CPU families. However, the latest IBM JIT probably does wonders to naorrow the gap on machines with 16 or more general purpose registers.

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  4. Re:Don't scream by tshak · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mono is only going to implement the VM, you most likely are still going to need tons of libraries.


    This is wrong. All someone has to do is go to the mono project's home page and see that they are implementing the vast majority of the .NET framework - most noteably the classes pertaining to web applications (ASP.NET).

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  5. Re:Don't scream by curunir · · Score: 4, Informative

    Whoah there!!! That's some concentrated FUD you're spreading there (FUD is like vegemite...anything more than a thin layer will leave a bad taste in your mouth).

    As for implementations, check out Mono. Pure, open-source .NET. Sure, it's not finished yet, but it proves that competing implementations *are* possible, if someone is motivated enough to get off their ass and code the thing...The specs are publicly available.

    I doubt you've been seriously using Java from its inception, 'cause if you had, you would've remembered how long it took before we saw non-Sun JDKs...give .NET time, and we'll see competing implementations.

    Sure MS is evil, but this is a win for Apache too. MS is basically conceding that their web server is sub-par...and they have no reason to compete with apache. The evolution of the app server (J2EE, .NET etc) has made Apache a trivial communication layer to implement the HTTP protocol. So MS never has to develop a quality web server (something they are aparently incapable of,) and Apache will run on every computer that isn't running some bass-ackwards NES server.

    Frankly, the only loser with this announcement is Sun. The fact that Apache supported J2EE and not .NET was an implicit endorsement of J2EE. Now, with this announcement, Sun loses that endorsement. Frankly, considering how Sun has treated the Apache group, they deserve this.

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  6. Covalent != Apache by SmartyPants · · Score: 5, Informative

    this is a Covalent thing not a apache thing.
    you will have to pay $$$ for this