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Gates Tries to Explain .Net

AdamBa writes "Speaking to financial analysts and reporters, Bill Gates admitted that .NET hadn't caught on as quickly as he had hoped. The headline ('Gates admits .NET a "misstep"') is a bit misleading; he doesn't think all of .NET was a misstep, just the My Services part (aka Hailstorm). He also said that labelling the current generation of enterprise products as .NET might have been 'premature.' Summary: Microsoft got too excited about locking in users via Hailstorm and botched the overall .NET message." There's also a Reuters report and a NYTimes story on the same subject, which includes the interesting line: "Microsoft also warned today that the era of "open computing," the free exchange of digital information that has defined the personal computer industry, is ending." It isn't clear if Microsoft is talking about something happening beyond their control, or if they're boasting about ending it.

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  1. Re:Marketing to blame by Pfhreakaz0id · · Score: 2, Troll

    I was gonna say the exact same thing ... I don't give a crap about new servers, passport, hailstorm, some crap about web services (I mean INTERNET web services, business to consumer. I think that is hype, hype, hype... all the USEFUL web service stuff I've seen is between different units of the same business in different locations).

    That said .NET/ASP+ rocks... I just wish we could stop buying into the Oracle hype/money machine where I work and actually use it. This is completely offtopic, but would someone tell me what, exactly is the point of going with a completely propietary Java/JSP solution by tying yourselves to Oracles tools so completely? Why not use JBOSS/Linux or even JBOSS on the Sun machines they already have? Your taxpayer dollars are paying good money to port from one completely propietary platform (2k/ASP) to another (ORACLE/SUN). The only difference? The latter costs more.

  2. Re:Oh really...? No. I don't think so. by RocketScientist · · Score: 2, Troll

    What will happen is this: All IE browsers will only load pages from "trusted" servers. You can only have a "trusted" server with Microsoft's blessing, specifically if it runs IIS. You can keep your webserver, because 95% of the computer market won't be able to see your pages anyway, or at the very least will get a warning that contains the word "illegal" at least once.

    It's all about making your security holes work for you.

  3. Re:.NET by Malcontent · · Score: 1, Troll

    "slowly gaining popularity and many web sites have converted over to ASP.NE"

    I think this is the problem. MS programmers have no choice. They have to use whatever MS tells them to. When COM came out everybody has to switch to OCXs and ditch the VBXs they have no choice.

    I think MS is alarmed by how few of their developers are switching. By now they expected everybody who was useing VB to be using VB.NET and re-write all their applications in it. Apparently for the first time in history MS developers are actually showing some backbone and some are even switching to java.

    In the end MS will win. MS windows developers have no choice but to switch sooner or later. I think Bill G was thinking it would be sooner. We all have to pay Bill eventually though.

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  4. Re:Why should I use .NET? Java is solving my probl by Clue4All · · Score: 0, Troll

    On my AMD 650 Mozilla takes longer to start than LimeWire.

    That's related in any way HOW? They're completely different beasts. You've compared apples to oranges in an attempt to justify Java allegedly not being slow. Considering the rest of your statement, perhaps you're just a troll.

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    Is your browser retarded?
  5. Re:It seems clear to me... by sheldon · · Score: 1, Troll

    It seems clear enough to me. Microsoft and the entertainment industry are in bed together. Both have something to gain from DRM.

    Microsoft's position on this is quite understandable. They aren't in bed together, but Microsoft feels that if they do not incorporate DRM into their applications and utilities someone else will and that application will become supplant Windows as a desired choice.

    It's called hedging your bets.

    FUD. Yep, good ol' fear, uncertainty and doubt has always helped Microsoft in the past.

    I hope you do realize that your entire post was nothing but FUD. If not, then you obviously do not know what the term means.

  6. Re:nail on the head by sheldon · · Score: 0, Troll

    Apple announcements only enthrall Apple loyalists.

    You're not going to see iMac in use in most business or homes.

    It is amazing the amount of free publicity Apple get's though, and it should be disappointing to their shareholders how little of it materializes as revenue.