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nVidia NV3x Sneak Peek

zoobaby writes "Here is a sneak peak at nVidia's upcoming line of cards. No hard specs, but some nice notes on changes from current NV2x to NV3x, also some very nice screenshots to show off what it will be capable of." In related news, Tim_F noticed that memory manufacturer Crucial is entering the video card business with their first card based on the ATI Radeon 8500le.

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  1. Re:You may want to fix that submit.pl link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I was surprised when I clicked the link and got this:

    Windows cannot determine the validity of this certificate because it cannot locate a valid certificate revocation list from one or more of the certification authorities in the certification path.

    Also didn't know that ATI was owned by slashdot now. Hmmm.

  2. Fix the links, please by jerkychew · · Score: 2, Informative

    The word 'noticed' sends me to an admin page, and the phrase ATI sends me back to the home page. Please fix.

    1. Re:Fix the links, please by Gogo+Dodo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here's the fixed link to Crucial's video card.

  3. Basically, a directx 9 part by bastard01 · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you look at the features that are implimented in the NV 30 chipset, it is just about what the features for dx9 are. As for its capabilities are concerned, I really am excited to see that such technology will be used in games, but I am definately not buying that card, its price is well out of my range, I really do not like how nvidia's implementation of their linux drivers work. It seemed that after their 2802 drivers, their opengl didn't work too well at all with redhat linux, and then when I switched to gentoo recently, it doesn't work at all. So, as a result of that, I threw a Matrox G400 into my box, and will await the first company that creates linux drivers that fricking work. I don't care who it is, Ati or Matrox, or some other bastards, just get it done. Because it is obvious the way Xfree4.2 works, it is a real bitch for me to get my NV card to work, and since it is a GeForce2 mx, I really don't care if it does or not. I have a card that works with my games that I play on the PC, and for doom, or any other high end 3d game, I have an Xbox. So I can wait at least until someone gets decent drivers again.

  4. screenshots? by ywwg · · Score: 3, Informative

    third page? screenshots? where are people looking?

    1. Re:screenshots? by borgillel · · Score: 3, Informative

      I couldn't find them either, but you can go here to see some.

  5. More info on the Crucial 8500LE card by H3XA · · Score: 3, Informative

    HardOCP - Crucial Response

    Since the R9000 has already been launched and is supposed to take the place of the 8500/LE, how long will Crucial produce this card?
    The length of time we'll sell this and any product is dependant on the market. Right now, the Crucial Radeon 8500LE is an excellent and economical option for anyone looking to improve their graphics capability.

    Is the Crucial VidCard made in the USA?
    The Micron DDR memory used in our Crucial Radeon 8500LE video card is manufactured in the USA. But the video card itself is assembled in Hong Kong.
    Astute [H]'er, Robin Schwartz, pointed out that the Crucial driver downloads page points to Sapphire Tech in Hong Kong, apparently the folks building the card.

    How much will it retail for?
    Currently, the Crucial Radeon 8500LE is available for $134.99 through Crucial.com and it comes with free shipping in the contiguous US.

    Will the 9000 chipset follow closely?
    We'll consider offering other video card options in the future. Whether we do depends on what our customers want and need.

    Where will is sell through?
    As with all our products, any new Crucial video cards would be available direct through our Web site at Crucial.com. We would also expect to offer new products through our European Web site at Crucial.com/UK. In fact, the Crucial Radeon 8500LE should be available through the UK site shortly.

    - HeXa

  6. Re:Eye Candy by Graymalkin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Up until the GF3 you couldn't find a consumer card with programmable pixel shaders. Without prescise programmable shading done in hardware a good deal of effects just aren't possible. Current GF cards only support 64-bit integer lighting calculations which works fine if you want simple lighting but for some realism, high prescision floating point shader math is required. DirectX 9 and OpenGL 2 are both going to require floating point lighting calculations and thus hardware will need to support it as the R300 and NV30 do.

    If you used every feature of the GF2 or 3 you could get some really nice looking graphics. Whether you would get them running fast enough to play a deathmatch style game is the important question though. Developers can't just make a game for the GF4 and say everyone else can upgrade or else. Even the folks at id develop with hardware in mind that ought to be mainstream when their products are released. Quake 3 ran fine on the TNT2 and the original GeForce 256. Doom 3 is designed around the GF2/3 line of cards and their features.

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  7. Re:MIRROR NEEDED! by H3XA · · Score: 3, Informative

    SharkyExtreme is loading fine for me (Midday Shanghai, China time) but here is a link to a earlier story by nvmax.com (including a couple of screenshots).

    NVIDIA NV30 Sneak Preview

    Some Beyond3d forum discussion as well as screenshots and more info on the NV30.

    NV30 Screenshots

    One more link.... to nV News with further NV30 details

    nV News

    - HeXa

  8. Ace's Hardware also has a preview. by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ace's Hardware also has a short but very informative article about the NV30.

  9. PAGE 3 MIRROR! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    here.

  10. Re:Thinking it's a forgery by Viking+Coder · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sorry, here's ALL the evidence that I found :

    BMRT chess (by John Monos) vs. "nVidia chess"

    BMRT Bike (by Don Kim) vs. "nVidia Bike"

    BMRT Table (by Goran Kocov) vs. "nVidia Table"

    BMRT Markers (by Rudy Poat) vs. "nVidia Markers"

    I believe I've pretty definitively shown that either they have an actual RenderMan renderer running on their hardware (and access to the original data by four different authors), or this is a fake.

    Sorry, I can't find the coffee cup or the Final Fantasy image. Maybe someone else can.

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  11. Re:Thinking it's a forgery by donglekey · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is forgery. The BMRT images are so old there is little way they could dig up 5 or 6 year old images from someone who doesn't have any association with Exluna and that created them before there was an Exluna.

    More than that, the coffe cup is rendered with Entropy, not BMRT, it was done as all those images were, by someone else, this one recently in an image contest.

    The most obvious flaw though, is that those images are raytraced, and this is not something that anyone is claiming to do in realtime yet. It is beyond the scope of Nvidia's processor, as it should be. Those images are scaled duplicates that aren't changed a bit, and there is no way that an Nvidia card rendered them, because there is no way the reflections would be the same, but they are. Reflection maps have a tendancy to look correct, but not the same. There is also depth of field which is not impossible, but is improbable for now.

  12. FiringSquad nv30 article by DarkHelmet · · Score: 4, Informative
    There is another sneak peak at firingsquad...

    http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/cinefx/defa ult.asp

    Joy.

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  13. Two things... by srvivn21 · · Score: 2, Informative

    1. It shows that you have never created a SSL certificate with OpenSSL. The snakeoil stuff is defaults. No big deal.

    2. Trust the certificate. Just don't send any information you want kept secret. It's just encrypting the request/reply, not installing anything on your computer.