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Speed of Light Inconstant?

DHR writes "Australian scientists have discovered that light isn't quite as fast as it used to be." We've done previous stories on these findings. Those of you with subscriptions to Nature can read the actual paper, the rest of us will just have to suffer.

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  1. Re:Dr. Walt Brown agrees with the idea by Dirtside · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    Except that Dr. Brown wants to use the idea to disprove the theory of evolution. The amount that the speed of light would need to change to be of any use to creation "science" (which is about as far from scientific as you can get) is orders of magnitude higher than what's been detected here.

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  2. Re: Dr. Walt Brown agrees with the idea by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Flamebait


    > Take for example the BS theories of evolution that were passed around as fact until recently. You know, the ones that said that evolution happens at a very slow rate. Creationists argued against this for years because of the nature of how fossils are created. Evolutionists finally caught on and now almost all the recent theories talk about periods of very rapid evolution.

    Pardon, but you're showing the ignorance that is a prerequisite for being a creationist. Scientists still think that most evolution proceeds at a very slow rate, and even the "fast" episodes in Gould's punctuated equilibrium model are "fast" only on the geological scale. And BTW, punctuated equilibrium is nothing like the creationist catastrophist models you are trying to claim as an intellectual predecessor for it.

    > It's true that a lot of what they're saying is shit.

    It's true that everything they say is shit.

    > No true scientist can read the traditional "irreducible complexities" (like the Bombardier Beetle) without questioning current theories of evolution.

    No true scientist can hear the term "irreducible complexity" without laughing an ass off. IC is just a variant of the traditional god-of-the-gaps modle of the universe, where god is active exactly where we don't know the details of the real explanation yet. And whenever we do discover new details, creationists just relocate their god to a smaller gap.

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