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HyShot Scramjet Test Declared a Success

An anonymous reader writes: "ABC news is reporting that analysis of the flight data from the recent HyShot scramjet test (covered by Slashdot previously) suggests that the test was successful and that the engine achieved combustion in flight after reaching Mach 7.6. The University of Queensland is also reporting the news."

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  1. Re:Read the article? by Xaoswolf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You are correct, from start to finish, if you are traveling at mach 7.6 the flight would take 2 hours. But the question was, how long would it take to get up to mach 7.6. How far along on your flight would you be before you reached that speed.
    The test flight used a small craft, not a large passenger jet. It would be both easier and faster to reach that speed in a smaller light craft(and even then they used a MK 70 rocket engine, which I'm pretty sure isn't rated for passengers). Even if they were to just use a rocket or catapult(like on an aircraft carrier) to bring you to that speed faster, the G's would be immense, I'm not even sure if a G-suit would keep you from blacking out. And as stated earlier, if you gradually were to gain speed until you reached that point, you would be almost at your destination before you reached mach 7.6, and it would be time to start slowing down for landing.

  2. Re:Actual Destinations? by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Mach 7.6 is right around 2,260 m/s (7,414 ft/s) or about 5,055 mph. It would still take you 5 hours to circumnavigate the globe. Plus you have to consider acceleration time - the rocket doesn't have to worry about killing people.

    Realistically, we probably won't hit Mach 7 in commercial flights for some time, and there will probably be "low-speed" versions for shorter distances. As the article notes (emphasis mine):

    The engine kicked into action on the way back down at 35 kilometres above the earth, with data transmitted by radio until it began to burn up.

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  3. Re:Actual Destinations? by Xaoswolf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Me too, but it is an expiremental craft, and there were problems launching the first one.
    hmmm...
    Add a warhead and you have one hell of a fast ICBM...

  4. Re:Just a question: by smagoun · · Score: 4, Interesting
    What's the difference between a normal jet engine and a scramjet?

    Almost everything. Normal jet engines have lots of moving parts - turbines, compressors, etc. Ramjets and scramjets don't have any moving parts. They also require very high velocities to work properly, whereas a turbojet/turbofan is quite happy running all day long without moving.

  5. other applications? by Alien54 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Some how I can imagine the military trying to figure out how to make this cheaply enough to use in something like an upgraded version of the Tomahawk Missile. (which currently run at about 600mph or so)

    Something like that would be impressive, and also would have definite mind bending impact on the popation below, just due to the sonic boom.

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  6. Just one problem... speedbumps by Dark+Nexus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ever hit a speedbump at low speeds?

    Not that bad.

    Ever hit one at a higher speed? Say, at least twice it's rating (hitting a 15km/h bump at 30km/h, for example)?

    It's not the most pleasant things.

    Now, you're saying that "Planes don't have to worry about speed bumps!", and you're right.

    But what about turbulence?

    You can hit turbulence at Mach 0.76 that's pretty rough. What would that same turbulence to do a large plane at Mach 7.6?

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    1. Re:Just one problem... speedbumps by Joseph+Vigneau · · Score: 3, Interesting
      You can hit turbulence at Mach 0.76 that's pretty rough. What would that same turbulence to do a large plane at Mach 7.6?

      Planes fly Mach 0.76 at 30000ft. A plane flying Mach 7.6 would be much higher, upwards of 100000ft, where there is very little air to cause turbulence. Friction becomes an issue. When the X-15 flew Mach 6,

      Air friction at speeds much above Mach 6.0 would weaken even the X-15's chrome-nickel Iconel X skin, so a special resin-and-glass-bead ablative coating was developed that would gradually sear away in flight, carrying with it the excess heat.
      Let's hope they get that problem worked out...
  7. Re:Mach speeds by jshine · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, that's kinda deceptive really, because pressure and temperature are very related for a gas. If you model the gas as idea, then you get the relationship:

    P*v=R*T (where v=V/N) or, if you'd rather use density...

    density (rho) = P*M/(R*T)

    So, you can have temperature in terms of pressure, or pressure in terms of temperature. They are interrelated: with a gas, you can't change one of those parameters in isolation.

  8. Re:Actual Destinations? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Interesting
    What you do have the potential for (given significant further progress) is very fast cruise missiles, not ICBM's.

    Very fast ramjet cruise missiles were under development in the 1950's, but they fell out of favor because ICBMs are even faster and just about impossible to shoot down. However, they did look way cooler than today's boring ICBMs.