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Posted by Hemos on from the ah-the-joys-of-politics dept.

eyez writes "Apparently, the recent decision of OPN(now freenode) to ask for donations has ruffled the feathers of a few debian people. This article on DebianPlanet talks about the current discussion on the debian mailing lists which talks about the possibility of moving #debian (and #debian*) off of OPN altogether."

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  1. Re:If you build it, they will come by dzym · · Score: 5, Informative
    That's not quite the point.

    For some better insight as to what was going on at the time, you should read at the very least this page.

    See petition here.

    Read Eterm developer Michael Jennings' thoughts on the matter here.

  2. The whole lilo story goes a lot farther back... by Primer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Read all about it here:

    http://www.lilofree.net

    The OPN exodus started well before this fundraising initiative. It's all documented in the above URL.

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  3. Trolling for Dollars - Bully by jbridges · · Score: 4, Informative

    From June 13th:
    Trolling for Dollars

    From July 8th:
    The Big Bully

    [2221 lilo`(lilo@lilo.staff.opn)] you're saying that my asking for voluntary assistance based on my work on the network is abusive?

    [2222 msg(lilo`)] I'm saying that your using the network to ask for personal donations which will benefit no one but yourself is an abuse of power. It's also arguable that such use of the network is now illegal given the NPO you formed to oversee the network.

  4. Re:last post from this nick by dzym · · Score: 4, Informative
    let's see here

    /ignore lilo!*@* NOTICES
    a few weeks later
    /ignore lilo^!*@* NOTICES
    a few weeks later
    /ignore dilbert!*@* NOTICES
    a few weeks later
    /ignore *!*@*staff.opn NOTICES
    a few weeks later
    /ignore FUNDRAISING!*@* NOTICES
    a few weeks later
    /ignore *!*@*.freenode NOTICES
    Am I the only one who sees a pattern emerging here?
  5. Anybody who uses OPN... by drdink · · Score: 4, Informative

    might want to be aware of this little feature at their disposal. Here on SlashNET, we frown at such things. I, as the ircd maintainer, refuse to include such things in our ircd and have refused patches such as this in the past. Evil stuff.

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  6. What I think the story is by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative
    Lilo (Rob Levin) contacted me some time ago looking for support for him to operate OPN full-time. My response was, and still is, that rather than have an organized IRC network operated by Rob, various projects should operate their own IRC servers, not very differently from the way that many projects operate mail and FTP servers.

    I fear (and I could be wrong) that Lilo has mixed up his personal goals with his estimation of the importance of the project to the community.

    If and when I have grant money to hand out, either my own or that of a corporate sponsor, it will go directly to Free Software authors for production of Free Software, and to efforts to preserve our right to code like EFF.

    Thanks

    Bruce

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