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August Netcraft Results - Apache up 6%, MS IIS down 6%
An Onimous Cow Herd writes "Augusts Netcraft Web survey results are now out. This month's results show a dramatic upsurge of nearly 6% for Apache and a corresponding drop for MS IIS! At this point, Apache's decline has dramatically reversed, regaining the ground it lost to IIS starting mid-2001 and currently Apache's market share stands the highest since Netscraft started their monthly surveys."
It seems to me a hard thing to believe that a swing that big could happen in a month. Anybody have any explaination for how it happened.
Maybe people are finally deploying the new version of Apache? Or is this just sampling error?
"But some people play this game only to build the best web server possible."
/. look at the Apache numbers as some sort of "is Microsoft dead?" meter. They seem to think that if Apache can maintain a big enough market share for long enough, that it will either kill Microsoft or make Microsoft irrelevant. There's no doubt that it could hurt Microsoft's a teeny bit, but that's about it.
I suppose it's debatable, but I'll argue that market share has nothing to do with having the best product.
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But don't worry too much. If you select web servers based on how many people make how much money off you, then you can still choose (what I presume to be) the leader by that criteria.
Exactly! And what I'm saying here is that Apache may or may not be a valuable part of many companies' mission critical applications. To me, that's valuable. Just knowing how many functioning instances of Apache are out there isn't too valuable for most businesses in my opinion.
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While one may argue that a web composed of Apache servers is more secure than a web composed of IIS, it's better yet to have a plurality of servers. I know we're not down to one or even two servers, yet. But we should keep in mind that "World Domination" by a web server (or even OS) is not a particularly good outcome.
It's unfortunate that the computing industry has this completely stupid "One Leader" mindset. First it was IBM, then Microsoft, and even if Linux is a more benign "One Leader" than the other two, it's the "One" in there that's flawed.
We need to re-orient our heads a bit, and IMHO the Linux camp is almost as guilty as the Windows camp. Mitigating factor, at least the Linux camp begrudges *BSD the right to exist, but is it any better than the Windows/Mac relationship?
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
The emergence of a de facto standard is inevitable. It's called the Virtuous Cycle. Users and vendors are more likely to use and invest in the market leader, which increases is market lead. Rinse and repeat. For better or worse, that's why Windows rules the desktop today. It's easier and cheaper to just support one standard.
cpeterso
If you look down the page for the number of active websites instead of the number of total websites you see that Apache gained 1.43% and IIS lost 0.51%
There is a lot of difference between active sites and "parked" inactive sites. On the netcraft site you can find a good discussion of the difference between total sites and active sites.
The 6% swing seems to be the result of some major web parking sites switching to Apache.
I love to see open source advance, but we need to be as honest as possible in selecting statistics to present.
Stonewolf
No, market share doesn't necessarily mean best product, it's not like netcraft publishes a pro/con review anyway.
There's no doubt that it could hurt Microsoft's a teeny bit, but that's about it.
More than a teeny bit, considering that they make a lot more money off of business apps than home apps. You don't think Bill would love the server market? That's where they are currently devoting the greatest share of their attention.
And what I'm saying here is that Apache may or may not be a valuable part of many companies' mission critical applications.
Maybe maybe maybe...for people who have used both, they will almost unanimously tell you that apache is MUCH more stable and secure. If you have something mission-critical, you run it on apache. End of story. Throw some stats otherwise if you have them, but you likely won't find them.
No way in hell I'd use IIS. I could show you server logs of how many CodeRed-style viruses have hit my server (to no avail of course - many before Norton can patch them. Had I been using IIS - kablooie!
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I would agree. If the /. crowd insists that Apache's market share makes it the best web server, then Windows market share would make it the best OS.
You nutjobs can't have it both ways. Saying market share is irrelevant when talking about OS "quality", then saying it is relevant when it suits you is fscked up.