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Can We Finally Ditch Exchange?

bhsx asks: "With all the innovations going into open source software these days, why do I still need to run Exchange to meet my clients' needs? Even when demonstrating technology like LTSP mixed with any combination of OpenOffice, Star Office, even Codeweaver's Crossover Office running the latest Microsoft suite, the clincher is always over Exchange functionality. I'm aware of Bynari's InsightServer(Coincidentally, I noticed on that page, that their code is for sale) and have started using that as a possible closer, and the cost is much less prohibitive than eXchange+w2k server+CALs; but why isn't there an open source solution to this problem yet?"

"With new releases on the way, like Mandrake 9.0 and the new Lycoris can we who try to use Free Software in business environments hope for any change? Do the commercial Linux distros have any plans to implement a free replacement for Exchange, including a Win32 client-side bridge? If not, why not? Do you feel it is too cost prohibitive to imitate Bynari in this case, or is it a decision more along the lines of 'we'd rather you used Evolution and Mandrake/Lycoris/Whatever, rather than OutLook and Win32'? If it's the latter I'd be severely disappointed, and I don't think I'm alone. Any discussion on this topic would be appreciated; but what I'd really love is a community push to get this done. Perhaps a running Web-A-Thon to raise the money to simply purchase the technology from Bynari? I personally think it would be a great move towards grabbing market share from some of the other distributions, some of which have the technology but choose to keep it closed, as well as from the Great Dragon. What do you think?"

11 of 695 comments (clear)

  1. I'm working on one by jpmorgan · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm working on a system to replace Exchange (well, Lotus Domino, actually - BTW, Notes must die!). It will not be protocol compatible with either, and it isn't near a release yet.

    So never fear! There are some people working on the problem. ;-)

  2. Vibrations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    like enemas, mmmmm.

    When was the last time your ugly wife licked your anus?

  3. Re:2 reasons by PhreakinPenguin · · Score: 0, Troll

    But in all honesty, and coming from someone who uses both MS and RedHat support, MS is far and above Redhat in support issues. That may change in the future, but for right now I give MS the nod.

    --


    My sig of choice is Marlboro
  4. goatse flood #6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    By on by
    Thu August 22nd, 2002 at 03:58:06 AM EST

    'Twas the night before Goatse, when all through the house
    Not a penis was stirring, not even with mouth;
    The Giver was hung by the chimney with care,
    In hopes that St. Goatse soon would be there;
    The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
    While visions of anal-sex danced in their heads;
    And Katz in his 'kerchief, and I in my cap,
    Had just settled down for a fuck in the sack.
    When up in my anus there arose such a clatter,
    I sprang from the bed to see Katz start to splatter.
    Away to the bathroom I flew like a flash,
    Tore open my anus and looked at the gash.

    The moon in the glass had a vibrant red glow
    Gave the lustre of sunset to my nutsack below,
    When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
    But a miniature sleigh, and eight tiny reindeer!

    With a little old driver, so lively and quickse,
    I knew in a moment it must be St. Goatse.
    More rapid than eagles his coursers they came,
    And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name;

    "Now, TACO! now, JAMIE! now, MICHEAL and TIMMY!
    On, CHRISD! on HEMOS! on, PUDGEY and CLIFFY!
    To the top of the ass! fronts to the the wall!
    Now pound away! pound away! pound away all!"

    As faggots that before the wild hurricane fly,
    When they meet with a hetero, mount the next guy,
    So up to the house-top the coursers they flew,
    With the sleigh full of sex-toys, and Goatse pics too.

    And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof
    The moaning and pawing of each little poof.
    As I drew in my ass, and was turning around,
    Down the chimney St. Goatse came with a bound.

    He was dressed as a furry, from his head to his feet,
    And his clothes were all tarnished with urine and shit;
    A bundle of sex-toys he had flung on his back,
    And he looked like a hooker just flapping his sack.

    His eyes -- how they twinkled! his dimples how merry!
    His ass cheeks like roses, his cock like a cherry!
    His cute little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
    And the beard of his scrotum as white as the snow;

    The stump of a blunt he held tight in his teeth,
    And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath;
    He had a broad face and was a bit smelly,
    He shook, when he wanked like a bowlful of jelly.

    He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf,
    And I laughed when I saw him beat off himself;
    A wink of his eye and a twist of his head,
    Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;

    He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
    And filled all the stockings with smelly big turds,
    He layed a big log right under my nose,
    And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;

    He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle,
    And away they all flew like a fucking great missile.
    But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight,
    "HAPPY GOATSE TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!"

  5. goatse flood - 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    By on by
    Thu Aug 22nd, 2002 at 3:58:06 AM EST

    'Twas the night before Goatse, when all through the house
    Not a penis was stirring, not even with mouth;
    The Giver was hung by the chimney with care,
    In hopes that St. Goatse soon would be there;
    The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
    While visions of anal-sex danced in their heads;
    And Katz in his 'kerchief, and I in my cap,
    Had just settled down for a fuck in the sack.
    When up in my anus there arose such a clatter,
    I sprang from the bed to see Katz start to splatter.
    Away to the bathroom I flew like a flash,
    Tore open my anus and looked at the gash.

    The moon in the glass had a vibrant red glow
    Gave the lustre of sunset to my nutsack below,
    When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
    But a miniature sleigh, and eight tiny reindeer!

    With a little old driver, so lively and quickse,
    I knew in a moment it must be St. Goatse.
    More rapid than eagles his coursers they came,
    And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name;

    "Now, TACO! now, JAMIE! now, MICHEAL and TIMMY!
    On, CHRISD! on HEMOS! on, PUDGEY and CLIFFY!
    To the top of the ass! fronts to the the wall!
    Now pound away! pound away! pound away all!"

    As faggots that before the wild hurricane fly,
    When they meet with a hetero, mount the next guy,
    So up to the house-top the coursers they flew,
    With the sleigh full of sex-toys, and Goatse pics too.

    And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof
    The moaning and pawing of each little poof.
    As I drew in my ass, and was turning around,
    Down the chimney St. Goatse came with a bound.

    He was dressed as a furry, from his head to his feet,
    And his clothes were all tarnished with urine and shit;
    A bundle of sex-toys he had flung on his back,
    And he looked like a hooker just flapping his sack.

    His eyes -- how they twinkled! his dimples how merry!
    His ass cheeks like roses, his cock like a cherry!
    His cute little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
    And the beard of his scrotum as white as the snow;

    The stump of a blunt he held tight in his teeth,
    And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath;
    He had a broad face and was a bit smelly,
    He shook, when he wanked like a bowlful of jelly.

    He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf,
    And I laughed when I saw him beat off himself;
    A wink of his eye and a twist of his head,
    Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;

    He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
    And filled all the stockings with smelly big turds,
    He layed a big log right under my nose,
    And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;

    He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle,
    And away they all flew like a fucking great missile.
    But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight,
    "HAPPY GOATSE TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!"

  6. goatse flood - 8 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    By on by
    Thu Aug 22, 2002 at 03:58:06 AM EST

    'Twas the night before Goatse, when all through the house
    Not a penis was stirring, not even with mouth;
    The Giver was hung by the chimney with care,
    In hopes that St. Goatse soon would be there;
    The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
    While visions of anal-sex danced in their heads;
    And Katz in his 'kerchief, and I in my cap,
    Had just settled down for a fuck in the sack.
    When up in my anus there arose such a clatter,
    I sprang from the bed to see Katz start to splatter.
    Away to the bathroom I flew like a flash,
    Tore open my anus and looked at the gash.

    The moon in the glass had a vibrant red glow
    Gave the lustre of sunset to my nutsack below,
    When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
    But a miniature sleigh, and eight tiny reindeer!

    With a little old driver, so lively and quickse,
    I knew in a moment it must be St. Goatse.
    More rapid than eagles his coursers they came,
    And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name;

    "Now, TACO! now, JAMIE! now, MICHEAL and TIMMY!
    On, CHRISD! on HEMOS! on, PUDGEY and CLIFFY!
    To the top of the ass! fronts to the the wall!
    Now pound away! pound away! pound away all!"

    As faggots that before the wild hurricane fly,
    When they meet with a hetero, mount the next guy,
    So up to the house-top the coursers they flew,
    With the sleigh full of sex-toys, and Goatse pics too.

    And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof
    The moaning and pawing of each little poof.
    As I drew in my ass, and was turning around,
    Down the chimney St. Goatse came with a bound.

    He was dressed as a furry, from his head to his feet,
    And his clothes were all tarnished with urine and shit;
    A bundle of sex-toys he had flung on his back,
    And he looked like a hooker just flapping his sack.

    His eyes -- how they twinkled! his dimples how merry!
    His ass cheeks like roses, his cock like a cherry!
    His cute little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
    And the beard of his scrotum as white as the snow;

    The stump of a blunt he held tight in his teeth,
    And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath;
    He had a broad face and was a bit smelly,
    He shook, when he wanked like a bowlful of jelly.

    He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf,
    And I laughed when I saw him beat off himself;
    A wink of his eye and a twist of his head,
    Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;

    He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
    And filled all the stockings with smelly big turds,
    He layed a big log right under my nose,
    And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;

    He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle,
    And away they all flew like a fucking great missile.
    But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight,
    "HAPPY GOATSE TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!"

  7. goatse flood - 9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    By on by
    Thu Aug 22nd, 2002 at 03:58:06 AM EST

    'Twas the night before Goatse, when all through the house
    Not a penis was stirring, not even with mouth;
    The Giver was hung by the chimney with care,
    In hopes that St. Goatse soon would be there;
    The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
    While visions of anal-sex danced in their heads;
    And Katz in his 'kerchief, and I in my cap,
    Had just settled down for a fuck in the sack.
    When up in my anus there arose such a clatter,
    I sprang from the bed to see Katz start to splatter.
    Away to the bathroom I flew like a flash,
    Tore open my anus and looked at the gash.

    The moon in the glass had a vibrant red glow
    Gave the lustre of sunset to my nutsack below,
    When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
    But a miniature sleigh, and eight tiny reindeer!

    With a little old driver, so lively and quickse,
    I knew in a moment it must be St. Goatse.
    More rapid than eagles his coursers they came,
    And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name;

    "Now, TACO! now, JAMIE! now, MICHEAL and TIMMY!
    On, CHRISD! on HEMOS! on, PUDGEY and CLIFFY!
    To the top of the ass! fronts to the the wall!
    Now pound away! pound away! pound away all!"

    As faggots that before the wild hurricane fly,
    When they meet with a hetero, mount the next guy,
    So up to the house-top the coursers they flew,
    With the sleigh full of sex-toys, and Goatse pics too.

    And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof
    The moaning and pawing of each little poof.
    As I drew in my ass, and was turning around,
    Down the chimney St. Goatse came with a bound.

    He was dressed as a furry, from his head to his feet,
    And his clothes were all tarnished with urine and shit;
    A bundle of sex-toys he had flung on his back,
    And he looked like a hooker just flapping his sack.

    His eyes -- how they twinkled! his dimples how merry!
    His ass cheeks like roses, his cock like a cherry!
    His cute little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
    And the beard of his scrotum as white as the snow;

    The stump of a blunt he held tight in his teeth,
    And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath;
    He had a broad face and was a bit smelly,
    He shook, when he wanked like a bowlful of jelly.

    He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf,
    And I laughed when I saw him beat off himself;
    A wink of his eye and a twist of his head,
    Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;

    He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
    And filled all the stockings with smelly big turds,
    He layed a big log right under my nose,
    And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;

    He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle,
    And away they all flew like a fucking great missile.
    But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight,
    "HAPPY GOATSE.CX TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!"

  8. goatse flood 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    By on by
    Thu Aug 22, 2002 at 03:58 AM EST

    'Twas the night before Goatse, when all through the house
    Not a penis was stirring, not even with mouth;
    The Giver was hung by the chimney with care,
    In hopes that St. Goatse soon would be there;
    The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
    While visions of anal-sex danced in their heads;
    And Katz in his 'kerchief, and I in my cap,
    Had just settled down for a fuck in the sack.
    When up in my anus there arose such a clatter,
    I sprang from the bed to see Katz start to splatter.
    Away to the bathroom I flew like a flash,
    Tore open my anus and looked at the gash.

    The moon in the glass had a vibrant red glow
    Gave the lustre of sunset to my nutsack below,
    When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
    But a miniature sleigh, and eight tiny reindeer!

    With a little old driver, so lively and quickse,
    I knew in a moment it must be St. Goatse.
    More rapid than eagles his coursers they came,
    And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name;

    "Now, TACO! now, JAMIE! now, MICHEAL and TIMMY!
    On, CHRISD! on HEMOS! on, PUDGEY and CLIFFY!
    To the top of the ass! fronts to the the wall!
    Now pound away! pound away! pound away all!"

    As faggots that before the wild hurricane fly,
    When they meet with a hetero, mount the next guy,
    So up to the house-top the coursers they flew,
    With the sleigh full of sex-toys, and Goatse pics too.

    And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof
    The moaning and pawing of each little poof.
    As I drew in my ass, and was turning around,
    Down the chimney St. Goatse came with a bound.

    He was dressed as a furry, from his head to his feet,
    And his clothes were all tarnished with urine and shit;
    A bundle of sex-toys he had flung on his back,
    And he looked like a hooker just flapping his sack.

    His eyes -- how they twinkled! his dimples how merry!
    His ass cheeks like roses, his cock like a cherry!
    His cute little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
    And the beard of his scrotum as white as the snow;

    The stump of a blunt he held tight in his teeth,
    And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath;
    He had a broad face and was a bit smelly,
    He shook, when he wanked like a bowlful of jelly.

    He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf,
    And I laughed when I saw him beat off himself;
    A wink of his eye and a twist of his head,
    Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;

    He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
    And filled all the stockings with smelly big turds,
    He layed a big log right under my nose,
    And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;

    He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle,
    And away they all flew like a fucking great missile.
    But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight,
    "HAPPY GOATSE TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!"

  9. Re:RFC 2447 by ostiguy · · Score: 1, Troll

    You are correct, in fact, I am 99% certain that MS Outlook Xp sends out its calendar requests, etc by default in that format.

    That said, I am an exchange bigot - exchange 2k's web mail + IE > 5 is the closest thing to a real mail client via the web.

    ostiguy

  10. How ironic.. by Frank+of+Earth · · Score: 0, Troll

    .. that the thread is about getting rid of MS Exchange and right below the article is a BIG FAT BANNER for Visual Studio.NET "Get your free trial DVD from MS"

    Apparently, it's ok to bash Microsoft every 5th /. post, but it's ok to generate revenue by displaying their ads.

  11. Re:No, and to the Wannabe's, Put up or Shut up by LibertineR · · Score: 0, Troll
    The only thing difficult about making an Exchange replacement is the technical (and legal) difficulty of deciphering MS' proprietary protocols.

    This is the exact nonsense I'm talking about. Write your own fucking protocals!! Do it, if its so damned easy. It aint.

    You and your bretheren think its better to just take(by government force)MS's intellectual property, so you sit back and whine, rather than put your heads down and code a replacement.

    Fact is, 99% of you wouldnt know where to begin, which is why Exchange is in no danger. Most of it, is actually easy, but then try integrating it, genius.

    If Microsoft and Chevron with their 100,000 member server clients not rebooting nightly, surely any company can install and configure Exchange correctly. Bottom line, 80% of MCSE's dont know squat.