Posted by
ryuzaki0
on from the rolling-the-open dept.
el bastardo writes "According to this ZDNet article, IBM is building a new IM network for the Washington, DC area government agencies using Jabber as the base protocol."
Re:Jabber on Cell-phones?
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Robotron2084
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Although I couldn't find the older SMS transport, there seems to be another one being made here at http://sourceforge.net/projects/jabbersms
Jabber gateways(transports) work very well. And if it doesn't exist you can write your own in Perl, Python, C , Java and many others using existing libraries to handle network and xml functions. $20 million buys you a hell of a lot of Jabbering!
More at the CapWin Site
by
reallocate
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Re:Jabber Server
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IamTheRealMike
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I'm half suprised MS didn't push for an MSN contract to help push their.NET intiative.
They would have difficulty with that. MSN was designed to be a large scale consumer service and nothing else. Check out its architecture if you don't believe me. It's not at all extendable, and the whole thing relies on central servers - you couldn't even just sell a server-in-a-box.
I'm also glad IBM is smart enough to roll out their own servers rather than use that godawful jabberd that jabber.org provides. I hope they release their jabber server as free software, as the lack of a fs/os production quality jabber server has hurt deployment.
I don't really know what you're referring to here. I admin a popular jabber server, and it works great. If you need corporate level scalability, the Jabber Commercial Server is especially designed for you.
Re:Jabber Server
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Mansing
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IBM isn't new to Jabber
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Ilgaz
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Check http://sash.alphaworks.ibm.com/download/sashjab/ Don't be tricked by it needs IE, it needs MS XML stuff. The Sash thing is in its full a real interesting stuff... I remember I installed Sashjab, with all those cool tricks just made with WEB technologies, thing used LESS than ICQ of that time...
So, IBM isn't new for Jabber.
BTW, in this evil corparate games Internet, I know its a dream but, how a cool thing if all IM relied on a protocol like Jabber...
Re:Jabber.com technology?
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X-ViRGE
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Yeah, when they say "The instant message application will come from Jabber..." they most likely mean Jabber, Inc., so I would imagine they are using that commercial server. That doesn't mean they have to use their clients, though.
Re:It's really not fair.
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Anonymous Coward
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The sf-like site for jabber apps is as dead as a doornail as far as offering files or getting at CVS.
Jabberstudio is far from it. Subscribe to their CVS commits notification list and see for yourself.
-- My exception safety is -fno-exceptions.
Why should it?
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Anonymous Coward
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>gaim doesn't do file transfer, thus it isn't a real client
I know you're trolling here, but I want to address this point. So what if gaim doesn't do file transfer? It's an instant messaging client, not an FTP program! That AIM and ICQ support point-to-point file transfers is convenient, but it's really just more unnecessary bloat.
The official AIM client includes some sort of extensible plugin API, presumably so that you can roll your own AIM plugins (though I have yet to find an SDK). One of the stock plugins is the ability to start a Quake 2 deathmatch via the AIM client; a neat toy perhaps, but it has nothing to do with instant messaging. Do you think that ICQ is not a "real client" because it doesn't feature Quake 2 support? Trillian supports IRC to some extent; does that mean that AIM isn't a "real client" because it can't do IRC?
Applications should be designed to perform specific tasks and perform them well. I don't need an IM client built into my web browser, I don't need an FTP server built into my IM program, and I don't need my SSH client to be able to arrange Quake 2 deathmatches. The idea of consolidating every possible feature under a single umbrella is precisely why I quit using Netscape some time ago... In order to get the browser, they also wanted you to install Collabra, and Composer, and all sorts of other things I neither wanted nor needed.
If I want to transfer files, I'll type 'ftp' instead of 'gaim.' Why is that so hard?
Re:Jabber is an offense against christians!
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kdart
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FYI:
Jabber Jab"ber, v. i. imp. & p. p. Jabbered; p. pr. & vb. n. Jabbering. Cf. Gibber, Gabble. To talk rapidly, indistinctly, or unintelligibly; to utter gibberish or nonsense; to chatter. --Swift.
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The early bird catches the worm. The worm that sleeps late lives to see another day.
Although I couldn't find the older SMS transport, there seems to be another one being made here at http://sourceforge.net/projects/jabbersms
Jabber gateways(transports) work very well. And if it doesn't exist you can write your own in Perl, Python, C , Java and many others using existing libraries to handle network and xml functions. $20 million buys you a hell of a lot of Jabbering!
There's more on the CapWin Site.
-- Slashdot: When Public Access TV Says "No"
They would have difficulty with that. MSN was designed to be a large scale consumer service and nothing else. Check out its architecture if you don't believe me. It's not at all extendable, and the whole thing relies on central servers - you couldn't even just sell a server-in-a-box.
I'm also glad IBM is smart enough to roll out their own servers rather than use that godawful jabberd that jabber.org provides. I hope they release their jabber server as free software, as the lack of a fs/os production quality jabber server has hurt deployment.
I don't really know what you're referring to here. I admin a popular jabber server, and it works great. If you need corporate level scalability, the Jabber Commercial Server is especially designed for you.
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Check http://sash.alphaworks.ibm.com/download/sashjab/
Don't be tricked by it needs IE, it needs MS XML stuff. The Sash thing is in its full a real interesting stuff... I remember I installed Sashjab, with all those cool tricks just made with WEB technologies, thing used LESS than ICQ of that time...
So, IBM isn't new for Jabber.
BTW, in this evil corparate games Internet, I know its a dream but, how a cool thing if all IM relied on a protocol like Jabber...
Yeah, when they say "The instant message application will come from Jabber..." they most likely mean Jabber, Inc., so I would imagine they are using that commercial server. That doesn't mean they have to use their clients, though.
ibm does already sponsor jabber... http://www.jabber.org/sponsorship.html
The sf-like site for jabber apps is as dead as a doornail as far as offering files or getting at CVS.
Jabberstudio is far from it. Subscribe to their CVS commits notification list and see for yourself.
My exception safety is -fno-exceptions.
>gaim doesn't do file transfer, thus it isn't a real client
I know you're trolling here, but I want to address this point. So what if gaim doesn't do file transfer? It's an instant messaging client, not an FTP program! That AIM and ICQ support point-to-point file transfers is convenient, but it's really just more unnecessary bloat.
The official AIM client includes some sort of extensible plugin API, presumably so that you can roll your own AIM plugins (though I have yet to find an SDK). One of the stock plugins is the ability to start a Quake 2 deathmatch via the AIM client; a neat toy perhaps, but it has nothing to do with instant messaging. Do you think that ICQ is not a "real client" because it doesn't feature Quake 2 support? Trillian supports IRC to some extent; does that mean that AIM isn't a "real client" because it can't do IRC?
Applications should be designed to perform specific tasks and perform them well. I don't need an IM client built into my web browser, I don't need an FTP server built into my IM program, and I don't need my SSH client to be able to arrange Quake 2 deathmatches. The idea of consolidating every possible feature under a single umbrella is precisely why I quit using Netscape some time ago... In order to get the browser, they also wanted you to install Collabra, and Composer, and all sorts of other things I neither wanted nor needed.
If I want to transfer files, I'll type 'ftp' instead of 'gaim.' Why is that so hard?
FYI:
Jabber Jab"ber, v. i. imp. & p. p. Jabbered; p. pr. & vb.
n. Jabbering. Cf. Gibber, Gabble.
To talk rapidly, indistinctly, or unintelligibly; to utter
gibberish or nonsense; to chatter. --Swift.
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The early bird catches the worm. The worm that sleeps late lives to see another day.