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KDE Gets The Hat
minkwe writes "Tension is currently rising between the KDE and GNOME followers, following the release of the new beta to Red Hat's upcoming distribution. Neither group appears to be satisfied with the fact that Red Hat has null-ified the difference between the two desktop environments."
Do you ever here about any retailers compromising the superior look and feel of the "Luna" interface used by Microsoft Windows XP? Of course not. Microsoft, through its strict licensing policy, is able to guarantee a consistent look and feel to all users of Windows XP regardless of how they obtain (and, of course, the activation system ensures that most users will only be able to obtain it through legal means). If an OEM were to resell an inferior, dumbed down derivative of Windows XP, they would probably have their Windows license cut off entirely and would be forced out of business.
But by putting software into the public domain like this, such forks are inevitable. There is no guarantee that the source hasn't been modified by hackers to add "exploits", or steal your personal information, as indeed happened recently with the (dead, admittedly) OpenBSD operating system. So the answer is simple: If you want control over the quality of your software, you must release it under a commercial license such as those used by Microsoft.
But...this confuses me. The other people here write that Open Source is about being gay.
Did I miss something?
"The lack onconsistent theming between these two desktops is retarded (If you find that offensive, becausee it implies mentally retarded people are stupid, they are)."
Perhaps, but you're ugly and your mother and I never rubbed that in your face.
Dad
Let's keep in mind here we're only talking about a desktop environment and not a religion... so @!$#ing what if RedHat changes the icons and changes default applications? Change them back if you don't like them... Good lord, if I somehow were able to release a different distribution of Windows, I might not want IE to be the default browser... I might not want Outlook to be the default mail client... Maybe I want Mozilla instead... that'd be my perogative... but you're bitching the way Microsoft would be if Kollar-Kelly makes them allow alternate distros of Windows...
Anyways, there's really two parts to the desktop environment: the libraries used by the applications supporting the environment and the basic desktop tools such as the panel/taskbar and the desktop/file browser... As far as the applications, use the best application for the job regardless of the environment... if you ask me, that's Evolution and Galeon right now... As far as the desktop tools, log into the environment that has the one you like the most... I think Nautilus still leaves much to be desired so I use Konq...
Get off the damn high horse, KDE developer folk... GNOME isn't nearly as bad as you make it out to be, so cut that out... and as a user, I use the right tool for the right job... Konq is a crappy browser compared to the Gecko based ones, and KMail doesn't compare to Evolution... RedHat went with a desktop neutral solution (Mozilla), and you're still giving them shit about it...
At least the GNOME people are more concerned about the user experience...
http://starboard.flowtheory.net/
>It's not about survival of the fittest in this case: it's about "we
>don't like KDE and so our user have to dislike KDE, too"
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Wake up. The vast,vast majority of RedHat users *ALREADY* dislike KDE. The only thing people like you are doing is increasing their numbers.
Everyone seems to be missing the real reason for this KDE zealot insanity.
It's not because Red Hat changed their version of KDE, it's because GNOME 2.0 is looking so damned good now. This is why GNOME-er aren't up in arms, and KDE-ers are screaming like mad arabs. There was a similar screech of outrage when the GNOME foundation was announced and Sun said it would use GNOME as its new desktop (for commercial use, EAT THAT KDE). Every time there is a big step forward for GNOME, the KDE religious shock troops land and start flaming.
Expect this to get worse too... GNOME 2.x has better infrastructure... better applications... better licence (no paying $2000 per developer, as with KDE) and with the arrival of 2.2 it will gain a superb multimedia architecture too. In short, the you are watching the screeching death throes of the KDE project. A couple of years from now, they will be like the BSD crowd: impotent shouters, shaking their fists from the sidelines, but at the moment, they count a large number of noisy and oboxious zealots in their ranks (Taco among them) and can make quite a racket.