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Why You Don't Have a Broadband Connection

blandthrax writes "I ran across this article on The New Republic. The long and short of it indicates that the reason why almost 90% of Americans don't have a broadband connection is because current broadband providers are preventing other ISP's from entering the fray. The result: higher prices for broadband connections and a general lack of innovation. An interesting read full of good details. And, as usual, we learn that countries such as Japan and Korea are far ahead of the US in terms of innovation and technological saturation."

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  1. This contributed to the demise of Sprint's ION ... by doomdog · · Score: 4, Informative

    Part of the reason that Sprint canceled their ION service was that the local telcos were screwing them over when it came to provisioning customer lines. When I had ION installed, the local telco told me it would take them 30 days to install a "conditioned" line that was suitable for ION....

    Of course, when I called the telco the next day to inquire about their own DSL service, the "conditioned line" could be installed the next day....

    In the end, it did take 3 weeks to get ION installed, and it was far better service than anything that DSL could provide.... I really miss ION :(

  2. Slashdot... by bytesmythe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apparently "The New Republic" doesn't have a broadband connection, either. ;)

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  3. Most normals don't want broadband by irishkev · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are lots of people out there who just don't care about having faster Internet connections. You always hear about some freak out in the sticks, salivating to get his paws on a fast pipe. What about the millions of people who have access to broadband connections but don't sign up!?

    Let's face it: People like us are not normal at all. Most people dial in, check email, buy a CD from Amazon on occasion, and that's about it. I've told several people that DSL or cable is easily 50x faster than dialup. They look at me like I'm crazy, "Now why would I need to go so much faster? And doesn't that cost a whole lot?" It's like, you just want to bang your head against the wall. But when you consider how much TV normal people watch, it makes perfect sense. They don't really want unfiltered knowledge. They can't handle it. Why go looking for information when all most people want is the pap and pizzle the spews from the their TVs?

    1. Re:Most normals don't want broadband by SirSlud · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That doesn't really cut it. Many 'normal' people today own computers that are way faster than what would have been an 'ubergeek' box 3 years ago. The need argument is pretty silly - we dont _need_ the Internet in the first place.

      Normals will 'need' broadband when it becomes cost competative to dialup. (Its only a few bucks more here in Toronto, Ontario.) Its not about 'need', its about superior technology at the same price. Thats when it becomes a no brainer for the normals, and its a shame the US market hasn't been able to achieve this cost competative point with broadband yet. You wouldn't turn down broadband if it were available for the same price as dialup now, would you?

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  4. Verizon wears the pants in my neighborhood by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I recently ordered Verizon DSL (NY suburb area, optimum online not available). I asked the sales rep why I should go with Verizon and not with another equally priced DSL provider: He said something about how Verizon has much more experience with DSL.

    I found out the real answer later. When the rep was checking my phone line to see if it was DSL capable, he implied that if my line hadn't been DSL-capable (if it was on older wires) then it could have been fixed, by speaking to a local Verizon phone line technician, usually by catching him on the job and asking him politely to hook it up (or possibly by requesting a service job through my local Verizon office, although they wouldn't be obligated to do it).

    This gives Verizon a completely unfair advantage, since no other company is authorized to maintain the phone lines in the area. DirectTV DSL can't sell to non-DSL enabled customers, but Verizon DSL can since they can enable just about anyone who asks!

  5. Re:As a community college professor.. by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Though the article didn't give numbers, it did list Canada in the same sentence as South Korea. While I admit that I have a largely biased sample space, practically everyone I know has broadband. My parents do, my friends do - even my non-computing friends. You can get cablemodem access in the town of Didsbury in Alberta, a town so small that practically everyone in town knows each other. All across Canada I have friends, and they all have broadband. We've got fewer people, sure, but our landmass is pretty damn big. Make no mistake, you've got problems down there when my access costs the same as yours, but in Canadian money, is faster, more reliable and more accessible. The US has no good reason to be lagging behind. Big businesses are crushing you underfoot, and removing the technological advantage that you should have.

  6. Re:As a community college professor.. by Vinson+Massif · · Score: 4

    Your 'smaller land mass' falls over when you compare Canada and the US re: high speed access.

    We're a much larger coutry with a much smaller population, yet we have a much higher high-speed base.

    Plus, what we get is cheaper! My $CDN cost for adsl is less than what I've seen on /. without exchange. My guesstimate is you're paying 2x my cost for inferior service.

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  7. Scary. by SlashChick · · Score: 5, Informative

    "In Virginia, when one small town, Bristol, wanted to set up its own broadband system, Verizon lobbyists persuaded the pliant, Republican-controlled state legislature to pass a law prohibiting any town from doing so."

    I found that quote very disturbing. Fortunately, I read more on the subject and found out that Bristol won a lawsuit that overturned the decision. The state is appealing the decision (imagine that), but for now, Bristol has set a precedent that says that municipalities can set up their own broadband service. It's insane that Bristol even has to go to these lengths, but at least they won.

  8. Synopsis by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Informative
    (Because it's not like anybody will read the article before spouting off):
    • Residential broadband prices are rising rather than falling.
    • There are 15 ISP for every 100,000 diallup customers, but only 2 ISPs for every 100,000 broadband customers.
    • Broadband ISPs are 95% owned by cable and phone companies (directly or indirectly).
    • Copper and cable are poor long term solutions, but there's no incentive to put in fiber-to-the-door.
    • Instead of trust-busting, the FCC has gone for "deregulation", which has just allowed the Baby Bells to deny their capacity to other providers.

    To synopsize the synopsis, we've screwed regarding broadband. But then, anyone that's been keeping even a casual eye on broadband for the past couple of years already knew that. The Baby Bell shutout this year was just the last nail in the coffin.

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  9. Re:What a crock of shit. by gokubi · · Score: 4, Informative
    His father is a damned industry whore as well.

    From FAIR.org:

    The AOL/Time Warner deal also showcased [Michael] Powell's nonchalant approach to personal conflicts of interest; he took part in the merger decision despite the fact that his father, Secretary of State Colin Powell, was one of AOL's directors, with lucrative stock options in the company.

    Colin made $35M from his stock sales after the merger that his son approved. I wonder if the Powell's had a party when the "death" tax was repealed?
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  10. Broadband situation - a UK perspective by jo_ham · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here in the UK, we were a little slower with broadband, but it's taking off here now to some extent.

    Rather than the 12 month contract, leased modems, astronomical prices and company monopolies, a new method has emerges that seems to be working. Approximately 40 to 70% of UK exchanges are dsl capable now, dependign on how far along you think they are. Oftel (the UK telecoms regulator) ruled that BT was obligated to allow other ISPs to offer dsl over BT's existing phone lines with no punitive charges in order to aid competition.

    As a result of that, I have a dsl service (640k down, 256-300k up) that costs me $35 (equiv) a month with no 12 month contract. The only outage I had was when lightning struck my house and cut the phone off (hardly the ISP's fault!) and I own all the hardware at my end.

    You buy a small dsl splitter from your ISP (or an online retailer) that you plug into your existing phone socket allowing you to connect your phone and modem. This way, no engineer needs to call round and install any hardware. The setup is a breeze, and I can have a static ip and run my own servers for a small fee if I need that capability.

    The other option is to get your broadband with cable TV. NTL offers cable internet with their cable TV service. The modem is built into all of their set top boxes, so if you want to use the service, all you need is an ethernet cable from your tv box to your PC and a phonecall to them to get set up.

    I think the driving force for this is the way the phone system works here. Local calls are not free, so dialup access is either through an ISP that offers a toll free number (AOL, Compuserve etc) which are expensive or an ISP that offers free use, but with a normal local call rate number, costing you 2p per minute off peak, and 3.5p per minute on peak.

    For the amount of time I spend on the net daily, I'd easily rack up the same cost in phonecalls as I'm paying for my broadband access, except at dialup speed. No contest.

  11. Invalid Argument by ratamacue · · Score: 5, Insightful
    We do not live under a free market economy. Not even close. The average US citizen is forced to give nearly 50% of his/her earnings per year to fedeal, state, and local governments. This is hardly a free market economy, which requires strong property rights, i.e. the freedom to spend your earnings on what you want, not what government wants. Competition can only arise when the people have a choice in how to invest their assets.

    You can promote socialism all you want, but you cannot discredit an economic system that doesn't exist.

    free-market.net

  12. What is the difference in Japan? by -tji · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just got back from my first business trip to Tokyo, and I was surprised to see there that they had numerous competing DSL providers, each providing much higher bandwidth at lower prices than you can find in the U.S.

    Yahoo!/Softbank had the best offering: 12Mbps DSL for ~ US$19/month!!! This would be amazing in the U.S., but factor in that Tokyo is a ridiculously expensive city, and it's even more amazing. A cappucino in my mid-range business hotel costs ~ $6.

    What do we need to do for that kind of service here? I am paying over 3x that much, for a 1.5Mbps DSL service.

  13. Re:att is at it again by kadehje · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In most cases, the cable internet situation is in fact a monopoly. If Cox, RoadRunner, AT&T, et. al. actually went head-to-head in THE SAME MARKETS, then you'd have oligopoly. Unfortunately, most municipalities have one cable franchise with a long-term license. Here in Mass., it doesn't really matter whether Cox offers cable modem service for $30/month in Georgia (I know, probably not true, just a hypothetical situation); Cox isn't an option here. If you want cable modem service, it's either AT&T for nearly $50/month or "Hit the road, Jack." A situation where one must spend several thousand dollars to move to a town with a different cable company is not my idea of competition at work.

    In terms of broadband access as a whole, many places are lucky to have a duopoly (cable plus a single DSL provider). Slightly better, but still not enough competition for my blood: when one raises prices, the other is just as likely as not to sacrifice an increased market share and choose a higher price and profit margin.

    Granted, there might be places where there really is an oligopoly at work, but my belief is that those places are the lucky, small minority. Now, if you had no choice (i.e. like auto insurance in most states, doing without was not an option) but to buy cable modem service from your city's franchisee, then I suppose one could say that cities with a less expensive cable company were competing on the cost of living there. I really hope the U.S. doesn't reach that point of corporate domination, however...

  14. An example of the "Brass Handrail" rates by hacker · · Score: 5, Interesting
    When I was in South San Francisco, I was paying $99.00/mo. for a 144k SDSL line. It was good, solid, and MegaPath's service and support was absolutely stellar. I had zero complaints, and I had the extra money at the time to pay for the bandwidth.

    At the same time, a coworker up the road from me in Daly City had a 1.5/784k ADSL for $69.00/mo.

    I resigned and relocated to Westerly, RI and Cox Cable was my only choice. I now pay $109.00/mo. for 256/256 with 1 static address. The service is absolutely slush (and I'm on a "Business" class connection, no blocked ports, separate non-residential subnet, etc.). Cox has now started capping people below their subscribed bandwidth, and has begun to shut people out of their own cable modems, so you can't get traffic statistics from the modem any longer... even if you own the equipment!

    The nearest DSL around here is from ChoiceOne, and it's 2x the price for 128k SDSL. I'm 2,000 feet from the CO. 1.5m SDSL from ChoiceOne here is $499.00/mo. That's almost what it would cost me to get a T1 dragged into my house.

    That same friend recently moved from Daly City to Fremont, and now pays $79.00/mo. for his 1.5/768k DSL line and he also has a cable line, which he pays $29.00/mo. for. He's getting two broadband connections at more than 10x my speeds, for less than I pay for one cable connection, per month.

    Broadband pricing varies WILDLY from location to location, even a few miles apart, from the same providers and CO.

    And for those who don't know what the "Brass Rail" pricing is, "..just firmly grasp this brass rail on the front of my desk as I step behind you for a moment.." -Broadband Provider

  15. Something just struck me... by pubjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It just struck me that the USA is increasingly seems to be getting behind when it comes to new technology.

    Broadband is just one example where the USA lags behind other parts of the first world. Mobile telephones is another where the Euros and Japanese seem to be in the lead. With technologies such as Digital Cameras, Camcorders, DVD etc. Japan seems to be clearly in the lead. The XBox is trying to catch up with the Japanese PlayStation and Gamecube. With cars, it seems that the Germans increasingly have the lead.

    Thinking through all the technology I have, hardly any of it is American. My laptop is Sony. My mobile phone is Ericcson. My car is German. My watch is Swiss. My DVD, television, Playstation, PDA etc. are all Japanese. My building architechture is European. About the only American technology I have is a HP printer.

    The funny thing is that this is probably going to provoke a load of responses from Americans saying what bullshit it is to suggest that the USA does not lead the world in technology and it will probably get modded down to -1. Go on then. Whatever.

  16. Yeah, and... by Mulletproof · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're just noticing this? Not that I disagree with most of it, but you're neglecting a minor point-- Most of the R&D is "made in the USA" when it comes to technology, and farmed out to foreign markets for production. And just for something to chew on, who developed the technology for the CPU in your computer? Your high end graphics card? Who has been the leader in computer developemnt and innovation for the last few decades? Not saying your wrong, but it's a relevant point to study. When it comes to stuff like this, I think America is on the wrong side of the scales. It's not national pride when I say more stuff should be made in America... It's financial security. Hey, lets go to war with... China. Ow. That's gonna seriously hurt the marketplace for a bit. We're way over-leveraged when it comes to our relaince on foreign markets for daily items. World trade is good... To a point. Unfortunately, the US is past that point.

    Fact is (speaking as an American if it isn't already obvious), the US is the leader in technological development, not always, however, in its application into the market at large. I think Japan has everybody beat in that arena...

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  17. Re:Japan and Korea less rural by debrain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In Canada, which has nearly twice the geographic area of the US and a tenth the population, I and many of my friends have had 2 MBit DSL for over 4 years now, and now I can get cable modems for 8 MBit for the same price. How much, you ask? US$25.66 per month.

    So the argument that "The US is full of big empty spaces and would better compared to Russia or China as far as how many people are connected" is moot since it could be compared to Canada and still be a disgrace to free enterprise. It is a good speculation, though: Korea and Japan do have the benefit of greater density. With the absence of Canada (and Sweden, I might add), the influence of population density might be a more reputable argument for the dearth of US broadband services. But I find it highly suspect to call 'geographic area' a significant factor in broadband rollout in lieu of the successful distribution of broadband in Canada.

    More likely, I would speculate, is the presence of public and regulated telecoms in Canada (Bell & subsiduaries) and Japan (Nippon Telegraph & Telecom).

    I am not sure why you listed Korea for DSL rollout; last I heard, the North was ignoring us, and the South was very rural except for Seoul and a few other cities. Any Koreans available to clarify that?

  18. The Real Expense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Gradually recouping the cost of laying fiber and of keeping some equipment alive is a no-brainer business!

    The real expense comes in being recruited into a polcing role to enforce the interests of others (like RIAA) because of the DCMA.

    Qwest one day just turned off my DSL after a year of service, resulting in my first ever call(s) to their tech support line, after several hours of hold/idiot/hold/idiot/hold/idiot They told me it had been turned off, they wouldn't tell me why, only that a FedEX was on it's way. Well, the next day an overnight FedEX ($14) informed me that MPAA had sent an email claiming that I was distributing a copy of "101 Dalmations"! WTF! I've never seen the movie, it's certainly not something I'm going to waste my bandwidth sharing, even if I had it.

    Cost to MPAA to send Qwest an email - $0.00

    Cost to Qwest to enforce interests of MPAA
    $14 - Sending FedEx
    $30 - 50 minutes of Tech support call time!
    $20 - to deactivate and reactivate the service
    at least $64.00!

    Cost to me for MPAA's mistake - 2 days broadband withdrawal pain, 3 hours wasted on the phone.

    The other main expense is supporting customers that won't RTFM! If Joe consumer wants on-(the phone)-line training they should pay for it not me just because we use the same ISP.

    If legislation continues to increase the cost to ISPs, the cost to consumers will continue to rise in direct proportion (plus a margin).

  19. Re:Invalid Argument (Now OT) by TheSync · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So are there any examples of a pure free market economy in the world? If not, which countries qualify as the closest to pure?

    According to the "Economic Freedom of the World" report from the Cato Institute, the most free economies are Hong Kong and Singapore, followed by the USA, New Zealand, United Kingdom, Ireland, Canada, and Switzerland.

    It should be noted, of course, that economic freedom is different depending on where you are. For example, the UK has introduced private alternatives to their old-age pension system, whereas meddling with Social Security in the US is still the "third rail" of politics.

    Western European countries generally ranked high in all areas except size of government and labor market regulation.

    Life expectancy is higher among more economically free nations, and they also enjoy higher levels of income and faster levels of growth. The poorest 10% earn much more income in economically free countries.

    The bottom five nations in terms of economic freedom were the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Myanmar, Guinea-Bissau, Algeria and Ukraine. However North Korea and Cuba were not included in the report since their data is not available.