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The Two Towers Hits the Net
tfreport writes "The Drudge Report is reporting that The Two Towers has already began to be file swapped online. This is four months before the movie is set to debut! An executive in New York promised if this is indeed part of the film that they would be punishing anyone and everyone that downloads the film or distributes it to the full extent of the law."
They're going after everyone who *downloads* it? That's going to take some doing...
Either way, plainly put, the quality is going to suck, the movie is worth seeing no matter what, I'll just consider the alleged posting (if I find it) as an appetizer before watching it on a massive movie screen with full Dolby Digital surround...
If one followed the logic of the idiots in Hollyweird, anyone who ever read Tolkein is already in violation of their hush hush rules...
I mean come ON now, who here hasn't actually read the books by Tolkein? Bueller? Bueller? We know how the story goes, the movie is just a way to see how well the books can be fleshed out... Kind of like Cameron's Titanic (spoiler alert: The ship sinks)...
Just because you can mod me down, doesn't mean you're right. Shoes for industry!
They have a marketing campaign to follow, etc. It would probably hurt them more if they were to release it now.
What do you expect? the movie industry spends too much time and money building up to release dates with all the hype, advertising etc.. just release the damn film!
I just looked on KaZaA, and tbh I don't see squat that could be TTT. Sure there are lots of dickheads pretending to have it, but you only have to hover the mouse over the file and it'll pop up with some meta information about the film, which in most cases says "Eight Legged Freaks" or "Spiderman".
I kinda get the feeling that Matt Drudge has been taken on a leeeeetle wild goose chase.
That is, unless anyone can reliably confirm that they have downloaded it and it is the real thing (something I seriously doubt, I would expect it to still be in post production at 4 months from release).
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It appears orinally on bbspot.com
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2002/05/spiderman2.h
But the real criminals are those responsible for initially putting it on the web.
And the fact of the matter is.....Most people won't download it and t ones that do
will only cause a spreading oif the word as to whether or not it's a good movie.
Hmmmm, how much money could be saved in mass marketing if replaced with the word of
mouth die hard big file swapers?
You have a point, and this is getting interesting.
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I've been using a gnutella servent on both win32 and linux platforms for a few months and there's an interesting phenomenon with the popular clients
90% of the peers you see are "near" you (on the same continent).
In the case of gnutella (I don't know about edonkey et al. and I don't want to start a flamewar), the "web" design of the protocol has the client preferably store the most responsive (closest) hosts it encounters, so usually you don't find a japanese machine in your peer when you connect from europe (YMMV, tel me, I'm curious).
My point is, when you search for LOTR in your gnutella client from the US, you won't find my friend Marcel who just downloaded it in France. Maybe after a 8-day search, maybe not. Maybe he has already deleted/burnt it on CD anyway, so the only proof remaining is a few erroneous search hits to a dynamic IP that will be hard to trace/repress.
One it's here on the net, it's lost to them. Sorry Hollywood. Lower your prices. There are still guys like me that love going to the movies, but we grow tired. Oh, and ban cellphones too
Karma cannot be described by words alone.
Hmm... I reckon the movie not being out yet is possibly a better reason for piracy than any other, as it could be argued that anybody downloading the file only wanted to watch it 4 months earlier (not an altogether unforgivable sin) and would watch it in the theater anyway.
I translated Episodes I and II for local release and I had them on tape several months before the U.S. release. Imagine the pressure when you cannot tell anyone. :)
--- Frantisek Fuka (Yes, that's my real name and you have no idea how it's pronounced)
I watched it from start to finish last week, and was totally unimpressed. Maybe they'll pull together some nice finishing touches in editing, but the story has been weakened from the book dramatically, there are a lot of holes, and I really don't think that's something that a big screen and big sound can save. I guess we'll see.
Is your browser retarded?
It's available via KaZaA and dal.net (and proabably other services). It is broken up in to three seperate DiVX parts, each one ~180meg. I've already received the first two of three... and am watching even as i write this.
And, yes, they filmed them all at the same time... though they didn't do the production work (touch-ups, choose which scenes, special-effects, etc.) on all three at once. It appears that they have just recently either finished production on TTT, or have come near enough to have a darn good movie available to us leechers!
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Imprisoning Indians would have made little difference, the numbers involved in the protests were still a minority (certainly nowhere near 10M) and the vast majority of Indians were living in poverty anyway. Imprisoning would have made no difference, and the British could, arguably, have done it.
Ghandi's intent wasn't simple civil disobedience in order to make it difficult to rule. It was to provoke a reaction in front of a society that would not stand that reaction. He knew that peaceful resistance would be met with violent resistance, and regardless of what British authorities believed about the rights and wrongs of a violent approach, Britons back home (and countries that were friendly to Britain) would be horrified by the acts committed in their name. When Ghandi visited Britain, he was treated as a hero, even by groups - such as textile workers whose jobs relied on a government back monopoly on supply to the Indian subcontinent - who had the most to lose from India achieving independence. That reputation came from fact that no matter how despicable the acts committed in India by the British was, he continued to fight Britain, and continued to do it peacably. If all it was was a question of getting Indians into prisons, nobody would have cared.
Martin Luther King employed a similar strategy. He knew that ordinary voters across the country would not stand for peaceful protest and the ability to vote and get a decent education being met with violence, violence which a government answerable to them was unwilling to stop. Had it just been a matter of prisons, well, the South had, for the previous 75 years, been making it as easy as possible to arrest blacks and lock them away for ten years at a time so that prison farms and other types of labour-prison could have the labour. The South's prisons were profitable.
The drug war continues not because it's cheap to imprison millions of people (at the last count it was over 1M from what I remember), but because ordinary voting Americans are prepared to stand for it. They're prepared to see violence and punishment meeted out on non-violent drugs offenders, for whatever reason. Couple the lack of outrage (and indeed the active public support) to the number of fingers in pies and you have a policy that will not disappear any time soon.
A war on IP piracy seems unlikely, to me, to be likely to generate widespread outrage. From the point of view of most Americans, the cost of it will never enter the picture. Instead, people who are expecting something for nothing, people who are denying the creators of wonderful things a living, etc, will be being justly punished. And hey, who cares if the punishments are way over the top, everyone knows that liberal fines and slaps on the wrists aren't enough to deter these evildoers, don't they?
The war on inane wars on the people needs to be fought. But civil disobedience is unlikely to be the way forward.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
The Two Towers is NOT on the net. I did a seraach on WInMX to grab the trailer to the movie to check out something. I was suprised when I saw "Two Towers 2002"
Well I did what any one would have done. I exclaimed, "Holy shit" and went to DL it.
Needless to say, I was in a long ass line. Well I went to find other sources and what did I get. Some Busty Asian porno movie.
Obviously someone is just renaming the movie to get us all in a tizzy.
(Why do I post this...? No one will read it, much less, moderate it)
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