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Space Tugboat to Refuel Satellites

Faeton sent in this article about a proposed space tugboat to refuel aging satellites. Looks like they're just going to bolt on some extra thrusters with a new fuel supply, guidance system, etc.

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  1. Re:What ever happened to ion drives? by mumkin · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wha? They're using them:

    from http://www.orbitalrecovery.com/faq.html

    Attitude control for the SLES and the telecommunications satellite to which it is mated is handled by ion thruster packs mounted on deployable booms. These booms are extended to provide sufficient thruster impulse for control of the SLES/telecom satellite combination.

  2. I'll nitpick too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Let A be the distance from the camera to the Earth.
    Let B be the distance from the camera to the satellite.

    The picture only gives you the ratio A/B, you can't "judge" the value of A alone.

  3. Re:What ever happened to ion drives? by ender81b · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually the shuttle is incapable or reaching GeoSynch orbit w/o substantional modifications - and dangerous ones (like a fuel tank in cargo bay, extra SRB, etc) or refueling at the ISS if that ever becomes a possibility. The highest altitude a shuttle has ever achieved, IIRC, is around 490 miles.

    So if there really was a mess in GeoSynch they would just be screwed...

  4. Re:Laugh at the image... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    > We've got less than 5 billion years or so to find a new home out there... :(

    Actually less than 500 million years before the oceans vaporise. Still, I don't think you should worry that much, we probably have that technology 1000 years from now. :)

  5. Re:Old satellites never die... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Generally it is very difficult to land a satellite that was not built with the intention of being landed.

    You cannot just let them burn up in the atmosphere, because parts could survive re-entry, and cause major havok when they crash back to earth.

    However, it *is* possible to capture a satellite which is in orbit, and bring it back to earth, but that is by no means a trivial operation, although if you don't care about damage to it, (you probably don't), it would be doable as a clean-up operation.

    What should be done, but is very expensive, is to build the capability in to all new satellites to be landed when they are no longer required. That is the real way to solve the problem, however it is *very* expensive.

  6. Sounds similar to Orbital Express by afniv · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check out the DARPA project for more info. Do a Google search on "orbital express" for other links and news.

    --
    ~afniv
    "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
    Richard von Weizs
  7. Re:getting rid of old satellites by Izmunuti · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, when they do a controlled deorbit, they typically aim it at the ocean which has a notable lack of dogs, houses, and people's heads. If it's out of control then it falls where it falls.

    Most sats use solar but I suppose there may be a few with RTGs and maybe a handful with nuclear reactors. The RTGs are designed to survive reentry _intact_ so they don't spread radioactivity anywhere. I believe an RTG from a satellite launch accident in 1968 (Nimbus?) was actually recovered from the ocean and reused.

    Now a nuclear reactor reentry might be more of a problem. I think the couple that are up there from the 60's are parked in orbits that won't decay for thousands of years.