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Case Modders - Think Small

sysadmn writes "Mini-ITX is a relatively new form factor for PC motherboards measuring only 170 mm x 170 mm. The folks at Mini-ITX.com have this page of interesting projects, including full systems built into 1/10 scale models of a Ford Focus Rally car and a VW Beetle. Another project recycles a SparcStation IPX from 40 Mhz Sparc to 800 Mhz Via C3. Not to be outdone, motherboard maker Via has its own Mini-ITX project page, with several cool automobile systems."

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  1. driving home by Alien54 · · Score: 2, Funny
    In the old days of the Olde American Wild West, a cowboy going home after getting drunk at the bar could depend on his horse to find the way home while he snoozed off, etc.

    Now what would be really useful would be a car that would drive people home safely after a night of safely killing of excess and troublesome brain cells.

    A smal system like this would be a good first start.

    You could use a doom or quake game engine loaded with a map of the local streets as a nav aid for the car.

    I tell you, this could work.

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  2. problems by ottothecow · · Score: 3, Insightful
    my only gripe with small cases is the overly common: I cant fit it all in

    they are great for settings where you dont need much. My school library has some small cases for the computers running the card catalog, unfortinately the card catalog computers are running fullpower P4's with tons of ram and all the goodies, while the computers used to do internet research etc. (and not nice small cases) are 1st generation p3s

    in my head I dont see why you need more power to look at card catalog text (thin clients would be the ultimate space saver, stick a server somewhere that has room but no easy access to actually have a monitor and stuff) but I have to admit, the cases were very pretty
    the suggestions I see for these as a LANparty case just dont make sense, usually I like to have my full graphics and sound etc along with me

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  3. Duplicate story by Corvus9 · · Score: 3, Redundant
    This story is a copied from a post that was written only hours ago.

    I'll refrain from the obvious comment about /. editors.

  4. Commercial cases by Coryoth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why is it that there is no serious commercial market for quality case design? The only company actually seriously doing any design work is Apple. Some of these cases are exceptional, and I know I'd pay decent money for them.

    What's with all those companies out there? Why can't they get their act together and provide some decent case options? Anyone know?

    Jedidiah

    1. Re:Commercial cases by MisterBlister · · Score: 3, Insightful
      most profit in the PC market comes from businesses. they dont want fruity "extras" driving up their workstation prices, and plain beige cases go well with the grey cubical space...

      Although Apple does have a foothold in some niche business markets, they tend to be 'CREATIVE' businesses like graphic design houses...These businesses are more likely to buy such things and appreciate the industrial design.

    2. Re:Commercial cases by Perdo · · Score: 2

      Why is it that there is no serious commercial market for quality case design?

      Computers are tools. Do we really need glossy shiny plastic to boost our egos and raise prices even when the functionality of the computer is not improved?

      The only company actually seriously doing any design work is Apple. Some of these cases are exceptional, and I know I'd pay decent money for them.

      Why would you pay more for something that is functionally equivalent? Why do you ignoor your own creative abilities? You want a nice case? Do it yourself. You don't need Apple dictating your style to you on a mass produce assembly line.

      And if you must have a company sell you something for you to feel like you have a superior case, buy a commercial water cooled or vapor phase change case. At least then you have something functionally usefull and realitively unique.

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    3. Re:Commercial cases by Perdo · · Score: 2

      Why do people buy nice looking furniture? Functionally ugly cheap furniture would work just as well.

      How pretty is an Aeron? Ugly. How comfortable? Very.

      What about home electronics, why must it look nice?

      Ever seen bubbly flowered stereo components? And you never will.

      Why do people want a nice looking car?

      Ego. Prestige. Is a Hummer pretty?

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    4. Re:Commercial cases by Moofie · · Score: 2

      Some people (like me) will pay for aesthetics. Other people will not. What on Earth could be wrong with that?

      I contend that it is not possible to take a stock beige box and turn it into a well-designed device (in the sense of good industrial design, like Apple has and nobody else does). If it were possible, I'd have done it already.

      Good design requires an elegance that is difficult to retrofit. At least, that's my opinion.

      (and no, cutting a window in the side and putting in neon does not constitute good design)

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    5. Re:Commercial cases by autopr0n · · Score: 2

      Well, actually I think Aeron chairs look nice, especially once you know how comfortable they are. You see one and you think "I'd like to sit in that chair." They aren't hideously ugly in any way. (But who knows, some people might not like them because they're 'different' from most expensive chairs. There are always people who disagree on certain designs. Just look at the toilet seat of the original iBook. Obviously someone thought that looked nice)

      I also think the hummer looks nice. At least a lot better then most "suburban assault vehicle" type SUV.

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    6. Re:Commercial cases by sulli · · Score: 2
      Ever seen bubbly flowered stereo components? And you never will.

      You're wrong. People mod their crap to look like all kinds of things. And Apple recently released these funny looking iMacs that are very often used as mp3 servers. So funky looking equipment is not a surprise at all.

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  5. Applefritter by loomis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So I wonder if the poster has ever seen the Desktop Hacks at Applefritter, which include the Shop Vac Mac and the Lego Mac?

    Loomis

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  6. Imagine.. by Perdo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A Beowulf cluster of these...

    Inside a toaster.

    That was actually my submission to The Register when they held a contest for Eden applications. VIA was giving away a bunch of these Eden mini-ITX systems to the winners. That is where VIA's applications page came from.

    Imagine a cluster sitting on top of every desktop in a classroom. Instead of just being able to use time on a cluster to explore it's architecture or a class building one cluster as a project, each student would have their own cluster.

    Problem is, even the 800mhz C3 performs no petter than a 450 PII. Additionally, the processor has absolutely no parallelism. Only one path with no out of order instructions.

    That lack of balls does give them an advantage: they draw only 60 watts for the entire system. That includes memory processor and all.

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    1. Re:Imagine.. by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2
      Yeah!

      This is my idea. I want to build a little 6/8 node performance cluster inside one of my old SGI Indigo boxes. Turn a '91-era workstation back into a real performance computer. Roomy enough, and built like a tank! I think I can get 6 mobos, a BIG shared PS, and a mini-hub in here. It'd be nice to have these boot off of a shared image from a RAID on the right side of the case, where SGI located the 4 half-hight bays.

      Someday, when I have more time... By then the mobos will be small enough for 12 in the case!

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    2. Re:Imagine.. by Perdo · · Score: 2

      Wait, I got as far as benching these things:

      They are SLOW. Great tool for learning but you are way better off price/performance/power density with a stack of dual athlon motherboards.

      $500 bucks for a dual board plus 2 2000MPs -vs- 5 VIA EPIA boards. No Contest. Three dualy athlons will fit in a wide mid tower for stealth clustering. Probly stuff two into an indigo.. except it's not quite tall enough.. Might have to use some serious low profile power supplies.

      The other route is to try their backplane version.. problem is, quad G4s are also available on a backplane...

      Of course they do have some interesting design elements. Full duplex 10/100 ethernet that can be "split" for dual 10/100 half duplex.

      Firewire networking at 480 Mb/s also has interesting possibilities.

      Remember your switch has to fit inside too and a 12 port switch is going to be bigger than a 4 port switch.

      The C3 is a socket 370 processor but in the case of the EPIA it's soldiered to the board. Perhaps they'll make a tulatin variety some day.

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    3. Re:Imagine.. by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 2


      $500 for a dual mobo? Damn, I thought you were full of shit. I remember window shopping on pricewatch.com maybe 3-4 months ago. +$700 for underpowered MPs, while the single CPU Athlons blew them away at 1/2 the price. Check it a couple minutes ago. I'll be damned, they are $500 for a mobo with two 2Ghz MPs. Thanks for the heads up!

      (But how the hell am I going to figure out the right times to buy hardware, or when that time is passing by me...)

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  7. Case modding may be fun, but be careful... by FueledByRamen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Case modding is fun. I stuffed my last PC into an old SGI Iris Indigo that I was getting pissed at (blew up my KVM switch before I realized that the keyboard port is a few pins away from standard PS/2...). However, watch what you're stuffing that motherboard-of-the-week into. I don't care if you rip up a Sega Saturn, a Sony PlayStation, an old SPARC, or an Iris Indigo - those were all mass-produced systems. (With the exception of the Indigo, these were all on the mini-itx.com site.) No one is going to miss that old tape deck, and making your own case out of plexiglass is just cool.

    What I don't want to see is someone ripping up a piece of history for 15 minutes of fame. I'm donning my flame suit already, but just give me a chance here. Stuffing an Eden mini-itx into a 1/10 size Beetle is just cool. However, if you rip up an old NeXT Cube, or an Apple III, I'll be forced to kill you. Old hardware is cool and useless; old, rare hardware is to be kept around by any means. Go ahead and rip apart that old boat-anchor XT you have lying around for a new bullet-proof (literally) box, but if you put a cutting wheel through a rare piece of hardware, you deserve to have your guts ripped out and a new motherboard sewn into place, just like the antique that you destroyed.

    So go ahead and stuff a micro-pc in that old 80's toploader VCR, or a PS1. Just stay away from the truly rare, cool stuff - it needs no modifications to be neat and interesting.

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    1. Re:Case modding may be fun, but be careful... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2
      I have 3 working Indigos (R3000 AND R4000), plus a few odd hulks for parts.

      O.K. I won't rip into the R3000/Entry graphics system. This was how SGI introduced the best designed personal workstation to the world. I will also spare the R4000/Elan - this represents the hight of the curve for these boxes, not obsoleted 'til '97 and will still run current IRIX.

      But I can pick up semi-functional R3K's for 60 bucks on ebay. I might even do it up in Indigo Chrome!

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    2. Re:Case modding may be fun, but be careful... by rthille · · Score: 2, Funny

      So, are you willing to buy the dual headed NeXTCube/NeXTDimension I've got sitting unplugged on the floor in my office? :-)

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  8. Uh, no. by Com2Kid · · Score: 2

    I like big, thank you so very much.

    Besides.

    I have 5 PCI cards and 4 IDE devices, and I am trying my best to get some more stuff. . . .

    Now if some new bus interconnect method was made up that involved a connector edge a tad wee bit smaller then that of PCI (heh, hasn't technology advanced at least a wee bit since the early/mid nighties? :-D ) then sure, but. . . .

  9. I'd never get one of those cases by Ilan+Volow · · Score: 2

    If its size doesn't satisfy my secretary, I'd have to go to great pain and expense to get it enlarged. And adding another 6 inches of plastic to what's already there would look kind of weird.

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  10. Travel light... by Burning1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A couple of years ago at the height of the .com economy I was working as a "Sales Support Technician."

    Our sales force had been touring the country with a windows based pre-alpha product that had a footprint too large to effectivly work on any of the laptops at the time... Our sales force started carting around a normal desktop. Imagine their chagrin when they realised that desktops weren't meant to travel regularly and they had to talk their way out of demoing the product...

    Well, that's the reason for that neat-o title. Part of my job included carting around the two 19" monitor boxes containing a mid tower case, keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, etc... I would have *loved* a design like this (and a flat panel display) doing all that traveling.

    ...Sadly, all the money for cool toys went into paying the salary for a certain pair of other IT workers who's sole purpose seemed to be making everyone else's life hell. Ah ve.

    Regardless, these days laptops like the Dell Insperion's negate the need for complete desktop systems, but I can see cases where a proper desktop would be useful (Demoing a PCI/AGP device anyone? How about a particularly nasty piece of bloatware.)

    It's a nice tradeoff between flexibility and size.

  11. Interactive case mod by micahjd · · Score: 2
    I submitted this as a slashdot story some time ago, but it's still "pending"...

    My case mod

    72 LEDs mounted behind translucent plastic, all with computer controlled brightness. There's an XMMS plugin :)

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  12. Re:under the hood by blankmange · · Score: 2

    Being a VW, shouldn't it remain air-cooled??

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  13. Last part I need: small VGA monitor! WHERE?!?! by jcapell · · Score: 2

    The monitor they show is only video, not VGA ! Has *ANYBODY* ever found a source for a ~10" LCD VGA Monitor?

    I don't want to use NTSC out from a video card (clarity and all) and I don't think I'll have much luck dismanteling laptop LCD's.

    Help!

    1. Re:Last part I need: small VGA monitor! WHERE?!?! by bergeron76 · · Score: 2

      I recommend flat-panel.com. I used one of the 6.5" LCDs in my car. Its pricey, but very bright and clean. I highly recommend it.

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  14. Yes, but it sits on your desk every day. by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    I live in the dorms, and I only have one room. So, my computer is always out in the open for every one to see 24/7. Why would I want to put something ugly in my living space if I could put something beautiful?

    It's not about ego, it's about the fact that having beautiful things around you makes you feel better, while having ugly, cheap looking shit makes you feel bad.

    Some people actualy are sensitive to this sort of thing.

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  15. No, you're wrong. by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    Hummers do have an asthetic, even if it wasn't intended. Just because something isn't flowy like an AudiTT or something dosn't mean that it dosn't look nice. The Hummer may not have been designed with looks in mind, but it does have a look. And a lot of people like it (the whole 'technical' look)

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  16. Re:under the hood by 3waygeek · · Score: 2

    Well, the new Beetle is water-cooled. Besides, the idea for air-cooling the original Beetle came from Hitler.

  17. Re:under the hood by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2

    Umm, Hitler was a dictator, not an engineer.

    In addition to making war on europe and killing 6 million jews, Hitler started volkswagen. He didn't do the engineering, but he did do the requirements (affordable, reliable, specific performance and weight requirements for the engine), and his chief designer went on to work for Porsche. Thus concludes today's history lesson.

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  18. Re:under the hood by 3waygeek · · Score: 2

    Read the link I supplied -- it explicitly states (in paragraph 6) that Hitler told Porsche to make the VW air-cooled. Porsche, not wanting to end up dead, did what der Furher asked.

  19. uh,,,. by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    Sarcasm generaly has a 'humor' component. If the above post had been funny, I might have caught the sarcasm.

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  20. huh? by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    Ever seen bubbly flowered stereo components? And you never will.

    Actualy I have. At the exotic "target" stores.

    Unless you consider a nearly spherical cd/sterio with hello kitty plastered all over not to be 'bubbly'

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  21. 'we' by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    havn't established anything, other then your general lack of humor, and otherwise rampant idiocy.

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  22. Personal Iris - power supply rewiring? by Kris_J · · Score: 2

    I've got an old Personal Iris case with a working power supply, but I'm not sure how to rewire it for a standard PC motherboard. Does anyone know of a guide somewhere? I was just going to get a normal PC case and leave this alone, but this thread has come at a good time...