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Ruling in Aimster Case
Circuit Breaker writes "A short history of Aimster: Got noticed by the RIAA, lost their domain name to AOL, changed their name to Madster. More recently, a preliminary injunction has been issued against them, according to BBC News and Associated Press. Who's next?" Aimster declared bankruptcy months ago, so this is really a formality: beating a dead horse.
Simon and Garfunkel - Homeward Bound
I'm sitting in the railway station. Got a ticket to my destination. mmmm
On a tour of one-night stands, my suitcase and guitar in hand.
And every stop is neatly planned for a poet and one-man band.
Homeward bound, I wish I was, Homeward bound,
Home where my thought's escaping, Home where my music's playing,
Home where my love lies waiting, Silently for me.
Every day's an endless stream, of cigarettes and magazines. mmmm
And each town looks the same to me, the movies and the factories
And every stranger's face I see reminds me that I long to be,
Homeward bound, I wish I was, Homeward bound,
Home where my thought's escaping, Home where my music's playing,
Home where my love lies waiting, Silently for me.
Tonight I'll sing my songs again, I'll play the game and pretend. mmmm
But all my words come back to me in shades of mediocrity
Like emptiness in harmony I need someone to comfort me.
Homeward bound, I wish I was, Homeward bound,
Home where my thought's escaping, Home where my music's playing,
Home where my love lies waiting, Silently for me, Silently for me.
On their web page is a scantily clad woman along with the phrase "Now With A Mad Cool New Name"!!
Wow!! Where can I buy stock?!?
Does their homepage have a picture of a dead kitty's tombstone, drawn in MS-Paint?
If not, they're not officially dead yet.
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DRM is like antifreeze, to the MPAA/RIAA it's sweet, to the consumers it's poison.
I'm sorry, but even on the sliding scale of horrible peer-to-peer sharing services, Aimster was quite shitty. You won't see me losing any sleep over this.
YOW!
Know your enemy. Study this list of Jews trying to destroy your freedom:
- Rosen
- Coble
- Berman
- Eisner
- Redstone
The Jews never create anything. They are the parasites who wedge themselves between the producer and the consumer. The Jew takes a slice of every pie that passes by. What the Jew hates is that the Internet is cutting him off from his host. The artists can now distribute directly to their fans.The Internet has made the Jew irrelevant. So the Jew tries to buy the politician to do his bidding. The Jew tries to get bought politicians to pass bogus regulations in order to maintain Jew hegemony over the consumer.
Listen and learn about the Jew in this mp3.
Learn the Truth about the Jew
Watch for the Evan Hoffman book deal that is likely to come around soon. I had the opportunity to read his site before he took down all the Aimster info, and apparently there were some pretty shady dealings with management and witholding the final paychecks of employees.
What better way to establish precedent than by going up against a bankrupt company that can't mount a defence.....
Why did they give aimster.com to AOL? Does AOL own nonsense words containing "aim" now? Missed the memo on that one...
It was one of those 3,000 other Napster clones hoping to hit big-time.
Listen to the retarded business model they had:
Combine AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) with Gnutella client to build upon the existing user base of AOL customers (IM side) who would in turn chat and exchange files.
I tried to install it a year or so ago when there was this instant hype, but it was just horrible. The only p2p model that has a remote chance to survive in this hostile world of RIAA omnipotence is the Direct Connect (DC)
Hey Everybody, It's That Same Great Service You've Known And Loved For So Long - Now With A Mad Cool New Name ...
They ought to add to the website:
...not only all that, you can make friends with all those music company bigwigs, and win a free long term holiday in a -4 star jail cell. It's absolutely fun fun fun! An the other funny thing people, we're dead!! Isn't that super!
Madster - we've got a new namester
...nope, another change needed... Deadster will do nicely.
Are you local? There's nothing for you here!
'Twas the night before Goatse, when all through the house
Not a penis was stirring, not even with mouth;
The Giver was hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that St. Goatse soon would be there;
The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of anal-sex danced in their heads;
And Katz in his 'kerchief, and I in my cap,
Had just settled down for a fuck in the sack.
When up in my anus there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from the bed to see Katz start to splatter.
Away to the bathroom I flew like a flash,
Tore open my anus and looked at the gash.
The moon in the glass had a vibrant red glow
Gave the lustre of sunset to my nutsack below,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a miniature sleigh, and eight tiny reindeer!
With a little old driver, so lively and quickse,
I knew in a moment it must be St. Goatse.
More rapid than eagles his coursers they came,
And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name;
"Now, TACO! now, JAMIE! now, MICHAEL and TIMMY!
On, CHRISD! on HEMOS! on, PUDGEY and CLIFFY!
To the top of the ass! fronts to the the wall!
Now pound away! pound away! pound away all!"
As faggots that before the wild hurricane fly,
When they meet with a hetero, mount the next guy,
So up to the house-top the coursers they flew,
With the sleigh full of sex-toys, and Goatse pics too.
And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof
The moaning and pawing of each little poof.
As I drew in my ass, and was turning around,
Down the chimney St. Goatse came with a bound.
He was dressed as a furry, from his head to his feet,
And his clothes were all tarnished with urine and shit;
A bundle of sex-toys he had flung on his back,
And he looked like a hooker just flapping his sack.
His eyes -- how they twinkled! his dimples how merry!
His ass cheeks like roses, his cock like a cherry!
His cute little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
And the beard of his scrotum as white as the snow;
The stump of a blunt he held tight in his teeth,
And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath;
He had a broad face and was a bit smelly,
He shook, when he wanked like a bowlful of jelly.
He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf,
And I laughed when I saw him beat off himself;
A wink of his eye and a twist of his head,
Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;
He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
And filled all the stockings with smelly big turds,
He layed a big log right under my nose,
And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;
He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle,
And away they all flew like a fucking great missile.
But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight,
"HAPPY GOATSE TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!"
Obviously Aimster/Madster did not exactly follow the rules, but isn't it a bit harsh way of putting it to say that the reason for aimster's existence was facilitation of copyright infringement?
Was it just me or did that author of Aimster constantly whore his underage daughter. Her picture was on every fucking page of the site, not to mention being a large photo on the index page. What the fuck is that about? Write average software, but whore your young daughter to make it popular?
A good laugh was reading the forums and seeing all the old guys who wanted to dig her guts. I'm pretty open to shit, but I thought his move there was fucking base.
Karma: Anything remotely associated with Boy George I have no interest in.
"The horse is dead. Fuck it or walk away, but stop beating it." - Not my quote
(Score:5, Not Funny)
Their web page reads "The ONLY Service With NO SPYWARE!".
How can they be so sure the others are that crappy ?
And, BTW, if we consider they use(d) GNUtella code for the p2p service, then GNUtella is spyware free 2... not to mention GNUnet...
Trolling using another account since 2005.
Here.
Fuck it or walk away, but stop beating it.
From the Associated Press link:
[Judge] Aspen gave the companies suing Madster until next week to propose language for a "narrowly tailored" injunction that would end copyright infringement "while allowing non-infringing uses of the Aimster system, if any, to continue."
Somebody hit this judge with a clue-stick please?
It would be a lot easier to try to end the use of Madster by left handed people while allowing right handed to continue using the system. *
* Foot note, ambidexterous people can only use the system on tuesdays, thursdays, saturdays, and before noon on sundays.
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
So what we need now is a company that makes money from the establishment, rise and fall of P2P companies. Perhaps a group of law firms, broadband providers and CD-R media companies could band together to keep the flow of disposable P2P companies going?
- Fuck Aimster
- My Semi-Complete Aimster Saga
- Life Goes On, Sort Of - special bonus material: AIM chat with Aimster/BuddyUSA/Pi 2 CEO John Deep
- Aimster's proposed "settlement" of the money they owe me.
Also worthy of note is this site that John Deep has set up, ostensibly for his daughter to write about all her "knowledge" of the music industry; I'd put 10 to 1 odds that it's John himself writing that garbage, and 100 to 1 that it's not his daughter. The site is www.musicpundit.com.rooooar
Crooked-Corporate-Lawyer: "But Judge, You'll see here in the 2002 Case, Aimseter vs. AOL-Time-Warner, they admitted they %did-whatever-AOLTW-accused-them-of". This matter has already been settled, you just have to apply the same solution"
And that freinds is how America has lost its ability to defend reason from Corporate America
Were getting the band back together - both quotes from the blues brothers(I think)...
Your story is sad, but entertaining. Could you imagine being this guys daughter?
I have heard of exploitation before, but this is bizarre - I went to the site to check it out and it reads like I imagine some sort of perverts fantasy site (it reminds me of that fake website for the non-existant 15yo whose name escapes me for the moment).
If your a kid that was almost out of college you still have plenty of time to recover from this experience. Consider it a hard lesson learned...
I read through your posted links and just want to give you a heads up - you will be extremely hard pressed to find a job that allows you to get away with what your crew did at that place...
Total dead horses fragged: 5793
Ben
Did anyone follow the link "Click here to download", located right under Deep's hot-looking supposed daughter's crotch, and NOT get what they were expecting ? If I can download her, Madster is going to be a huge success.
Since you evidently worked at the company and have some knowledge of Deep himself, can you PLEASE answer the question I know many of us who have been following the Aimster saga really need answering : Does his daughter REALLY look like that ?
Anyone know what happened to XTCRadio??
They appear to no longer have a DNS entry.
This makes me sad.
- Zav - Imagine a Beowulf cluster of insensitive clods...
So is the Aimster/Madster/Whateverster chick legal yet, or is she still Jailbaitster?
So they got an injunction. This is worse than closing the barn door after the horse is gone. What will the RIAA do next? I can hardly wait to see some confession they extract with torture ;-)
I just wish people would Stop putting 'Ster' on the end of everything in the vague hope that it will make them famous or something. Now that Aimster/Madster is deadster can we finally have SilenceSter from all those napster copies of P2Pster SoftSter pleaseSter ? FreeSter is NOTSter a bussiness model. Ster.
Thank you.
Dude, I think someone slashdotted your brain
they are the ones that killed you...
I hate to say it, but despite all the advertising you don't ACTUALLY have to go out and buy a new car when you get your first job. Buying an older car would also cut your insurance in half.
Plus you got robbed on your rent - you could have had a mortgage for less and built some equity.
Best of luck
It seems very likely that Deep always intended to cheat you out of your last month's salary. That's why he hired a bunch of kids on their first salaried job, so they wouldn't know that his business practices weren't normal.
Is that legal? IANAL, but it wouldn't suprise me if it weren't. Boggles my mind how often shady employers do stupid, illegal stuff to shave a few pennies off their bottom line. If you have the cash for a retainer, you should talk to a lawyer who specializes in labor law.
And if you can verify any of the bookkeeping BS Deep is obviously pulling, you should contact the IRS. They pay commissions for that kind of info!
In New York state, the maximum you can sue for in Small Claims Court is $3K. That's less than half of what you're owed. But in Small Claims, everybody represents themselves -- so there are no legal fees. You pay a fee to file and that's it.
Now, it's gonna do you no good to sue Madster or any of Deep's other shell entities. He'll just pull the "There's no money!" trick one more time. Instead, you should sue Deep himself. Claim that Deep acted deceitfully and never meant to give you your money. Document as much weirdness as you can -- the weird payroll cycle, the nonsense of one part of the business having hardware money when another didn't even have payroll money... There's probably more if you look for it.
At worst, the judge will just shoot down your legal theory, and you'll be out a filing fee and some time. But you'll still have the satisfaction of confronting Deep in person and documenting his dishonesty in a public forum.
Unless, of course, Deep chooses to ignore the proceedings. In which case you win by default!