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Sites Rejecting Apache 2?

An anonymous reader writes "Vnunet reports on the low adoption of Apache 2 has caused its producers to advocate freezing development of the open-source Web server until makers of add-in software catch up. Almost six months after the launch of Apache 2, less than one percent of sites use it, due to a lack of suitable third-party modules." I'm not sure where they are getting the freezing Apache development part, more talk about forking for 2.1 right now on the httpd mailing list. The article does have it right though that until there is a reason to upgrade and the modules are in place that adoption is not going to happen. While the cores of both Perl and PHP are thread-safe, the third-party modules are not. This renders one the larger reasons to use Apache 2.0, the threaded http support, useless for applications using either of these application layers. It comes down to the question of whether the third-party module writers are better off supporting what is used or what is new.

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  1. First by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Offtopic

  2. FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Rick Austenson is GHEY!

  3. Re:9/11 = 0.818181818 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Rick Austenson is GHEY
    And I got the FR (First Reply) you damn faggots!!
    Go here, it rocks!

  4. The Wichita Horror: Negro savages go on trial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    'Wichita Horror' trial to begin

    When Reginald and Jonathan Carr go on trial today for a crime spree now known as the "Wichita Horror," there probably won't be any mention of race. But that doesn't mean the people of Wichita won't be thinking about it.

    The Carr brothers are charged with a whopping 113 counts stemming from the murders of five Wichitans in December 2000, including the execution-style slayings of four young roommates on a frozen soccer field. Because the Carrs are black and their victims white, many observers expected the brothers to be charged with hate crimes. When the District Attorney's Office failed to do so, it touched off accusations of racial favoritism and a flood of angry letters and e-mails from as far away as Europe.

    That sense of racial injustice was exacerbated by the dearth of national media attention on the crime. Although the Associated Press covered the story, only a handful of newspapers outside Kansas picked it up, even though locals said the murders were arguably as horrific as those of James Byrd in Texas or Matthew Shepherd in Wyoming.

    "If this had been two white males accused of killing four black individuals, the media would be on a feeding frenzy and every satellite news organization would be in Wichita doing live reports," said Trent Hungate of Wichita in a letter to the Wichita Eagle shortly after the crime. District Attorney Nola Foulston argued that she couldn't charge the brothers with hate crimes because Kansas had no hate-crimes statute. Furthermore, the prosecution is seeking the death penalty, which cannot be enhanced by hate-crimes status.

    Still, accusations of a double standard have persisted. "To say 'They'd get the death penalty anyway' mitigates the whole purpose of having hate-crimes statutes," said Lou Calabro of the European-American Issues Forum in San Francisco. "Often a criminal will get 102 years or more, and what's the point of that?" he said. "The whole purpose of having them is that it's more serious to attack a racial group than just a guy."

    The only network to cover the Wichita killings is Court TV, which plans coverage of the trial from Sedgwick County District Court following jury selection, which begins today. A jury pool of 517 persons -- a county record -- has been selected for interviews, a process that is expected to take about two weeks.

    The problem is finding a dozen people who haven't already made up their minds about the crime. The defense, which tried unsuccessfully to move the trial, released a survey earlier this year showing that 74 percent of county residents said the Carrs were either "guilty" or "definitely guilty." Even so, Paul Cromwell, a professor of criminal justice at Wichita State University, said he was confident that District Court Judge Paul Clark would be able to seat an impartial jury.

    "It might have been difficult two years ago, but I think they can get a fair trial now," he said. "It's hard to find someone who hasn't read about it or heard about it, but the fever pitch is gone, although that hasn't diminished the seriousness of the crime."

    Key to the prosecution's success will be the testimony of H.G., a young woman now known only by her initials and the sole survivor of the Dec. 15, 2000, attack. In an April 16, 2001, deposition, she told the court that the Carrs broke into the townhouse where she and four friends, all in their 20s, were winding down after a day of work. She said the Carrs forced her and her friend Heather Muller, 25, at gunpoint to perform sex acts on each other, then instructed their three male friends to have sex with them, then raped the women themselves. The brothers drove the five to an ATM to withdraw money from their accounts and then to the snowy soccer field at about 2 a.m.

    The Carrs told the five to kneel in the snow with their backs to them, then shot them in the head one by one. Somehow, H.G. survived, and after the brothers drove away, she ran naked across the frozen field to seek help. The Carrs are also accused of shooting and killing a local cellist, Linda Ann Walenta, in a robbery attempt outside her home four days earlier. They face additional robbery charges for an ATM robbery earlier that month.

    Judge Clark refused defense motions for separate trials for the brothers, leading to speculation that the two could try to save themselves by pointing fingers at each other. The Carrs, both from nearby Dodge City, Kan., are also expected to argue that they were nowhere near the scene of the weeklong crime spree.

  5. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I don't get it. Did something happen on 9/11? Please explain.

  6. Pre-Fork is Dead by elphkotm · · Score: 0, Troll

    One can only hope that eventually Apache 2.0 will be accepted and lead the way for real multi-threading of open source software. Pre-fork, although optimized in Linux (a poorly thought-out idea, IMHO), is a terrible and inefficient way to thread. Just kill it.

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  7. Put Terror in America Every Day!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll



    Terror in America

    Put terror in america each and every day
    don't play by the rules of our society
    it's time to start a war against our nation
    sabotage and overthrow the power station

    sabotage downtown streets
    overthrow government,kill police
    burn the flag for which it stands
    terrorize american land

    I will not be tamed or act civilzed
    your boring morals & values i cast them aside
    it's tough for a guy... homicide
    kill with fury,kill with pride

    sabotage downtown streets
    overthrow government,kill police
    burn the flag for which it stands
    terrorize american land

    I'm not about to be just another statistic
    another notch in the lawman's gun
    another convict on the police hitlist
    I'm going to kill when i see them come

    sabotage downtown streets
    overthrow government,kill police
    burn the flag for which it stands
    terrorize american land

    this land is yours and mine to rape
    kill the man who stands in the way
    laws and boundaries must be crushed
    running wild in america's dust

    sabotage downtown streets
    overthrow government,kill police
    burn the flag for which it stands
    terrorize american land

    --GG Allin

    (post these lyrics here from now until sep. 12)

  8. Re:I'm still waiting on PHP by Beliskner · · Score: 0, Troll
    As soon as they release a stable version for Apache 2 (aka 4.3.0), then I'll look seriously at switching. It's great that Apache 2 has stablized now, though, as it lets everyone else work around a stable project. We'll all get to Apache 2, it just takes time to migrate.
    Bwa ha ha ha!!! You /. people are so hypocritical, when Microsoft iis users fail to install patches to upgrade immediately and get mod_Code Red automatically installed via Internet you say "l4amers", and yet when it's your turn to upgrade Apache, or even just to patch the older vulnerable version, it's suddenly OK to wait, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Yeah well maybe I've got MS iis running with mod_Code Red but if it ain't broke don't fix it, yeah?
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    A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
  9. Re:I'm still waiting on PHP by Beliskner · · Score: 1, Troll

    It can be worse to install a security patch - remember M$ SP6 being corrupt, requiring SP6a? Remember Media Player XP forcing DRM down our throats? I'd say these changes are bigger in the big picture than a simple httd change which can always be rolled back. Proof of everyone worldwide signing a DRM patch click-through clause is much bigger than this.

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    A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?