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Fighting Music Piracy with Glue
Scott Granneman writes: "The New York Times (Free Blah-di-blah) is reporting that Epic Records, in an effort to prevent reviewers from creating mp3s or even playing the preview CD in anything they don't control, is not disseminating the new Pearl Jam and Tori Amos CDs inside Sony Walkman players that are glued shut. Oh yeah ... the headphones are glued to the players too, to prevent any authorized output. A low-tech answer to a high-tech issue."
Ummmmm. I guess they must be assuming journalists are not engineers, as otherwise they could just cut the headphone wires and them connect them to their favourite input.
I know they are only releasing a limited supply of these to journalists, but seams to me this is very environmentally unfriendly.
Don't think a Sting preview will be released this way.
Are there plans to reuse or recycle the returned CD walkmans?
If you get modded down for a first post... What do you get for a last post?
Presumably other artists' CDs are put through the reviewers' own systems, set up the way they like them. Just say a fair comparison is impossible without putting these new CDs through that same system.
Of course, if you're feeling vindictive, you could always slate them instead...
Cheers,
Ian
Now, they just need to develop something that destroys the disc, if you happen to force the cover open or remove the Headphone jack.
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So they are expected to review the CD's through headphones from a walkman?
Doesn't that just strike people as being stupid? How will they get a subjective review of the audio quality? Are the music companies trying to hide poor audio quality from the reviewers by making them review the music through sub-optimal equipment?
This is just a sad example of how paranoid the music companies have become...
Here goes my piddling little amount of karma, but this has to be said:
Did any of the moderators who modded this up and thought to mark it "Insightful" actually read the article?
Not getting at the poster, but the comment does completely miss the point - I thought the whole idea of moderation was to keep things on track. Too often it seems to be a mechanism for ensuring that scum floats to the top, as moderators just "follow the herd"...
That is, by far, one of the worst ideas I've heard of in a long time.
How does the resource/effect ratio compares to say DRM?
Epic invested $3.99 and covered 95% of their area. DRM would be more like $3.99G / 97%.
Most geeks would love to crack this mom-and-pop security. Just for the fun of it. My first try would probably involve of three tiny needles. A second, a couple of mikes. A third,...
Most reviewers would just do the review and return the player afterwards.
IMHO Epic plays quite fair.
I want to know why a solid-state mp3 player couldn't be used? They could just build their own and put the songs in ROM and just have no input. Kinda like those little "tiger beat" or whatever players that just play Britney Spears and you can get them at McDonald's.
I imagine building a custom player with built-in earbuds and only one album on it would be cheaper than this dumb glue thing.
El Karma: excelente(principalmente la suma de moderación hecha a los comentarios de los usuarios)
A lot of times these methods result in getting a much lower quality piece of software/media than if it were simply bought. A lot of times (mostly with software) the result barely works at all.
So is it really worth it to copy some of this stuff at any cost? I can't help but think that sometimes it would cost less time and aggravation to just go out and buy the damn software/music CD/DVD. And don't give me that "information wants to be free" crap either. There comes a point when it's just not worth the time or effort to circumvent copy protection just because you can.
"Ask not what your country can do for you." --John F. Kennedy
What's to prevent someone from buying a bottle of acetone and unsealing the thing, then gluing it back together when they are done?
That what was all this school was for... to teach us how to solve our own problems. -- janeowit
But if you number each player, send them out, and expect them to be returned, then by identifying the missing or broken players you could pretty much work out who it was that smashed their player open and put the music on P2P.
Isn't that why they do it?
I can't help but wonder if the publicity around the stunt won't generate more press than the releases alone, after all, they just successfully told half a million slashdot readers that there's a new Tori Amos and Pearl Jam album coming out.
They reached that point a long time ago. The software industry wised up and changed their policies, although some companies with short memories are starting this crap again.
Remember off-disk copy protection? Enter word three from paragraph five on page twelve of the manual after looking up a secret code on a code wheel?
I remember cracking most of the games I bought just because I didn't want to deal with that crap. I remember buying Battle Chess and Rail Road Tycoon form my dad, and subsequently breaking both of them so he didn't have to enter codes.
The software industry, though, for the most part, learned it's lesson. Unfortunately, the RIAA thinks it's beyond the reproach of us regular joes. I said it before in a similar discussion, and I keep picturing Princess Leia saying to Darth Vadar "The more you tighten your grip, the more systems will slip through your fingers."
I feel the same way about this stuff. You want to know why CD sales are down? Maybe people are realizing what crap CDs are being put out. Maybe people don't care about the pop bullshit record companies are putting out. Maybe some have realized (like me) that every time a new format comes out you feel pressured to "upgrade". I have over 200 vinyl records and over 200 more CDs, and I simply stopped buying. It's just not worth it. I have a big video collection that I feel is worthless after getting a DVD player - but I'm not going to build a DVD collection, I'm going to rent. I look at my current collections and see thousands of dollars that could have been used much more wisely.
Just my opinion.
Stupid sexy Flanders.
I agree...to a certain point. Certainly, in both software, music, and other products, there is no right to simply take someone elses creation without compensation. If they want no compensation, fine, but I agree with your sentiment - you can't force people to agree with your license, they have the right to distribute their art any way they see fit.
I also notice how most slashdotters, instead of talking about how stupid it is to restrict the ability to listen to music, jump in with suggestions on how to circumvent the copy protection.
For me the problem is that we are being asked to pay more and more to buy products that restrict what we can do with them. Like you said, it's their perogative to release music that way. And it's my perogative not to buy it. Perhaps there are more people with this mindset than you think. Personally, I haven't bought a CD in a couple of years (and no, it's not due to downloading). It's not rocket science to figure out there's more to declining sales than online swapping.
On the other hand (and I've already mentioned this elsewhere so won't go into detail), do you really have a problem with me buying a crippled CD and circumventing the copy protection to make my own mp3s or a copy of the CD for my car or something?
Stupid sexy Flanders.
If they wanted to find out which reviewers were releasing previews, the easiest way would be to send out a few hundred gold CD-Rs with each one individually steganographically encoded. When the album appears on KaZaa or wherever, look for the codes and backtrack the gold disc. Bad reviewer! No freebie cruises for you!
Especially since the cost of those walkmans will be billed to the artist as promotional expenses.
If Slashdot were chemistry it would look like this:Cadaverine
Well, my TiVo has recordings of copyrighted media inside of it, and it's likewise pretty hard, though not impossible, to get it out in perfect digital fidelity for archiving on other devices or to play on different players.
I expect to see more of this in the future as hardware prices continue to slide. Media will become more and more locked into a particular device one way or another. Your next CD player could well require an Access card in it to enable it to play the latest CDs.
"Provided by the management for your protection."
Only superficial pop dance tunes have the instant effect. It's kinda like sugar. You get a rush, but afterwards you feel thirsty and want something more substantial. Any great work of art will require time to absorb, so preventing listeners from hearing only ensure the quality of the music degenerates. No wonder the current crop of corporate engineered bands aren't selling as well as they would like. They bitch about how they've invested in an artist, but they are the ones forcing those bands to rehash the last album. Plenty of musicians have been bullied and pushed away from exploration.
Or as U2 said it. Crap music kills the music industry. Not listeners.
I'm no music reviewer, but it seems to me if I were to review a new album, I would want to listen to the CD on the best stereo I have access to, not a little crappy discman with $5 headphones.
You should read the DMCA more carefully. The device has to be primarily designed for circumvention, and must not have any other commercially significant uses. Also, it would probably be hard to argue that glue is a "technological measure" as defined in the DMCA.
The DMCA is a bad law, and I know you guys are half joking, but blowing it out of proportion like this I think does our cause disservice. Actually understanding what it makes illegal, and being able to hold intelligent conversations about it's implications -- that's what helps us.
It seems you are already in the "World Jail" where freedoms (what's that) don't exist anymore.
Actually we are serfs to non-human entities who are nevertheless granted legal status, are techically immortal, and can never go to jail.
Can you guess?
Bingo, the Corporation.
You are not free to move about the world, so Where Do You Want To Go Today is misleading at best.
"Piter, too, is dead."
Does the glued in stereo-jack magically prevent you from splicing a jack onto the other end?
How is this in any way important, interesting, vital, relevant or worthy of consideration on any level whatsoever which is not petty, braindead, boring and totally fucking Prozacked up the wahzoo?
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