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Enterprise Season Premiere Tonight

l0key432 writes "Enterprise, Star Trek's fifth series, begins its second season on UPN tonight at 8pm/7pm central with the episode Shockwave Part II, airing just before the series premier of the new 'The Twilight Zone' show at 9pm/8pm central. Shockwave II is the conclusion to last season's season-ending cliff-hanger, and additional info can be found at this page(possible spoilers!) on StarTrek.com." Of course with my luck, it'll be pre-empted by some sporting event.

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  1. Tonight? by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It was on last night (Sep 17, 2002) at 10pm EST (GMT-4) in Canada...

    So if you haven't seen it, someone else here probably has. So you don't want to read on if you want to avoid spoilers.

    So essentially ... SPOILER ALERT(!!) for this whole story.

  2. Enterprise's problem by Aexia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Great premise, likeable characters and good actors.

    It got off to a great start. The Broken Bow was easily the best of the Trek pilots.

    So what's the problem? It almost seems as if the producers want Enteprise to ASPIRE to be as mediocre as Voyager was.

    It's stuck in that "nothing can change week to week" mentality that Paramount has long imposed on Trek. Worse, it's not even particularly bad like Voyager was early on... it's just... there. More often then not, it's not good or bad. Just something I could care less about.

    The Temporal Cold War is at least a step in the right direction, even if I think they've removed too much of the mystery from it. Compare "Future Guy's" appearance in the pilot to what it was in the finale. Initially, you couldn't tell anything about him and there was that cool distortion effect. Now, he looks like a guy dressed in stage black.

    Sullick and Daniels are a little too black & white. I wished they could've pretened for more than a fraction of an episode that the Suliban might actually be the good guys. Or that there were no good guys in this fight.

    But the fact that they have an continuing, if infrequently returned to, storyline is a positive step. Having *consistant* internal continuity is generally a good thing for a show. It's an incentive to watch, when done properly.

    As it is, I generally don't care about Enterprise.

  3. Enterprise's problem is TIME TRAVEL SUCKS by Thag · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the major problems with Enterprise is that TIME TRAVEL SUCKS. It's been completely overdone, BADLY, particularly on Trek, and I for one am not going to watch any more time travel eps.

    Because they're ALL THE SAME EPISODE: crew encounters time wedgie. Crew solves time wedgie puzzle. Time returns to normal. Teenage son lies to a cute girl at school to impress her, but gets found out and learns an important lesson about honesty. Roll credits.

    Jon Acheson

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    All opinions expressed herein are my own, and not those of my employers, who are appalled.
  4. Re:I watched it as the lead-in to SU2. by fmaxwell · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Plus, the "Dear Doctor" episode really really pissed me off. Leave an entire race to die, get laid! What a great moral...

    I thought that was one of the most thought-provoking pieces of sci-fi to hit television in a long time.

    For those unfamiliar with the plot (spoilers ahead):

    Enterprise encounters a small pre-warp vessel manned by a crew carrying a fatal disease. Phlox agrees to help their people (the Valakians). When Enterprise arrives at the alien planet, the doctor discovers that the Valakians have a genetic flaw causing them to fall prey to the disease. He concludes that it will eventually lead to their extinction. The Menk, a less advanced humanoid species, are subjugated by the Valakians but show promising signs of intellectual development. Doctor Phlox resists interfering with the natural evolution taking place on the planet, asking Archer what would have happened had ancient extraterestrials given Neanderthals an advantage over Homo Sapiens on Earth. Although it's one of the hardest decisions he has ever faced, Archer agrees with the doctor's reasoning. Even though the doctor has developed a cure for the disease, Enterprise gives the Valakians medicine that will only slow the symptoms and ease their suffering.


    I found it to be a fascinating insight into the moral responsibilities that they faced: Cure the sick, leaving them to continue their subjugation of a developing species, or allow nature to take its course while doing what they could to ease suffering.

    P.S. No, I did not have the whole thing memorized. I did a bit of web surfing to get the names of the species and some plot specifics.
  5. Do you think Gene Roddenberry would like this show by loggia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have you noticed that since Gene Roddenberry's death the franchise has truly suffered?

    Sure, the showrunners bristled at Gene's humanist view and various objections to darker themes - but sure enough, since his death the franchise has continually become less-and-less "beloved."

    There are so many elements that ignore Roddenberry's view in Enterprise that I wonder if it is the first show that is hardly "Star Trek" at all?

  6. "Rule-book" ethics in Star Trek by dachshund · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is also not a matter of "doing." It is just the opposite: Dr. Phlox did not actively attempt to interfere with the natural evolution in action on the planet.

    What's amusing is that the end result of all this moralizing is the Prime Directive. Under that philosophy, the Federation is allowed to help a race provided that their civilization has crossed the arbitrary line of developing warp technology. If the race hasn't quite made it there, then it's just too damn bad for them. Post-warp civilizations' destiny is apparently impervious to interference.

    It reminds me of the strict ethical codes that medical researchers must obey with respect to research animals. When performing experiments on a mouse, for instance, there are strict guidelines one must follow to insure that the animal is treated humanely. If that same mouse jumps off the table and runs out of the room, it immediately becomes "vermin", and you could pluck its legs off one at a time with impunity.

    That's the type of "rule-book" ethics that Star Trek loves. It always irritates me the way Trek episodes always justify their characters actions and make them seem heroic-- there's a token amount of reget, but not enough to get them down. It always struck me that a lot of these episodes should really end with the main characters lying around in a drunken stupor and contemplating suicide.

  7. Re:I watched it as the lead-in to SU2. by Thag · · Score: 3, Insightful
    It was definitely thought-provoking, but my enjoyment of it was muted by the fact that I disagreed with the conclusion.


    This is a very nice way to put it. It doesn't quite capture my utter moral abhorrence of the episode's conclusion, though.

    To me, the moral of the episode was "Because I disagree with these people's politics, they all deserve to die." And in particular, Phlox's dialogue about how the ruling race being genetically predisposed towards the disease that was killing them amounted to some kind of genetic destiny was utterly chilling. To me, it's the secular humanist equivalent of "God told me you have to die."

    If I were Archer, I would have suspended Phlox's medical licence immediately, ordered him to give over the cure, and launched a court-martial inquiry back home to determine his ongoing fitness to practice medicine. (Practice it somewhere else, that is, because he would never practice medicine on my crew again.)

    On the other hand, this is from the same franchise that put nurseries on warships, so expecting any kind of moral consciousness from them is probably an exercise in futility.

    Jon Acheson
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    All opinions expressed herein are my own, and not those of my employers, who are appalled.
  8. Re:Viewing Enterprise in St Louis by vrmlguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or, you can do what I did, which was scrap Charter, buy DishNetwork, and sign up for the superstation package, which consists of the UPN stations in NY and Boston and the WB stations in NY, Denver and LA. This provides two benefits: (1) I get to watch Enterprise and Buffy with the rest of the country, and (2) I never have to worry about KPLR preempting Angel and Smallville for Blues hockey. The only drawback is having two stations that advertise themselves as "WB 11".

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