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Mozilla Jumps on 'Lean Browser' Bandwagon

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the but-it-doesn't-runs-on-osx dept.

fader writes "Following in the footsteps of fast (and often fantastic) wrappers around Gecko (the Mozilla rendering engine), Mozilla has just released their own lightweight browser, Phoenix. Only Phoenix will still use XUL, the cross-platform markup language used for the current Mozilla interface. Will it still be fast enough to overcome the final gripe about Mozilla, namely that it's just too slow?"

8 of 579 comments (clear)

  1. Re:Gripe by MagPulse · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I'm busy with more interesting things than browsers, and IE works well enough.

  2. Re:Gripe by Captain+Pedantic · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    So why are you griping about this, instead of doing something else more interesting?

    --

    None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
  3. Re:FreeBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I read somewhere that *BSD is dying

  4. Re:Why not just use I.E.? by rseuhs · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    And my point was simple, if IE does what he wants it to do, why does he feel the need to fix what is already working?

    We both know that your and his point was finding some excuse not to try any non-MS applications.

    Actually this "ignorant and proud of it" attitude is the perfect start for a flame-war.

  5. Re:Personally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Yes, throw more memory and resources at it. Because bloat is so fun.

  6. Re:XUL is holding back Mozilla project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    OK, so here we have this company, Netscape, who is declining into complete irrelvance and badly needs a browser. Instead they produce a "application framework of amazing scope", putting themselves plop into the same market as Java, .NET, Flash, etc etc.

    You are right on about the technical side of XUL. But AOL is barely positioning this thing as a 3rd party developer tool -- no real docs, no industry support, no compatbility guarantees, etc etc. Hell, one can't even say if Netscape/Mozilla will be around in it's current form in a couple years.

    This is a company that's become basically a side-product of a money-losing movie studio, and who's slogan is "It's so easy, no wonder it's #1" and attempting to put out half-assed dev tools against real computer companies like MS and Sun. Uh-oh.

    Therefore XUL is useless in the real world where you have to think of apps with a 5 year+ lifecycle. Have at it for your toy projects.

  7. Another Gripe by Kayaker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    My main gripe with Mozilla is that it still doesn't display some pages correctly. In general, I really like Mozilla and Phoenix, but, they still mess up some pages with tables and images and don't handle some java scripts correctly. For example, lately I've noticed that CNN is formatting their articles in such a way that Mozilla doesn't display them properly yet IE does (example) . If the Mozilla team wants to compete with IE, they should be able to correctly display all of the same pages.

  8. Re:XUL is holding back Mozilla project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait


    Excellent words of wisdom. One point, though. It is not XUL anymore. The more common term is BLUI - Blubber Layered User Interface.

    Until the child hackers at mozilla.org and Netscape pell all of the rotting fat blubber from Gecko, then it will go nowhere. Like a bubble of gas oozing out of a sewage pit.

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    Just say NO to Netscape BLUI - Blubber Layered User Interface
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