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Ballmer: "We'll Outsmart Open Source"

An anonymous reader writes "Micorosofts Steve Ballmer is spouting off again in this ZDNet UK article. To an audience of Most Valued Professionals in London, he says 'We'll outsmart open source.' Among other things, he also says 'Linux is a serious competitor.' We've known ever since the Halloween Documents that they have been running scared, but this looks like a prelude to a whole new round of dirty tricks. It also looks like damage control for the statements of Microsoft's Sr. VP Brian Valentines last week."

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  1. huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    "Micorosofts Steve Ballmer is spouting off again..."

    Micorosoft? Never heard of them.

    Learn to proofread, you fucking retards.

  2. MS can't provide a "better" product by master_p · · Score: 0, Troll

    A more bloated product maybe. But currently open source can cover 95% of everybody's needs; imagine the future...

  3. I'm sorry, what? by Burgundy+Advocate · · Score: -1, Troll

    this looks like a prelude to a whole new round of dirty tricks

    Don't think so. Why not? I mean, they are Microsft, right?

    Yeah, they aren't the nicest company in the world, but guess what: no companies are. That includes our precious VA Research/Linux/Software, Ximian, and Redhat.

    They don't need to do dirty tricks at this point in the game. They've already won. And... brace yourself... they won by having a better product.

    Before you call me a Microsoft groupie, think about it. Windows XP, despite the draconian licencing (which is honestly their right), is so much easier to use than Linux it's not even funny, and it's just as stable. Internet Explorer is -- bar none -- the best browser today. Mozilla doesn't even come semi-close. Office is so capable that even LaTeX can't compare anymore, and Office has more functionality than Corel and any of the open-source efforts combined! The Visual Studio IDE integrates everything wonderfully, integrating a really slick editor, a world-class debugger, and a high-quality compiler.

    And these are all availble at reasonable prices. Before you say "But linux is free!", consider that you need training to use it... which takes time, money, or both, which are certainly not free.

    Face it. Microsoft has already won by having better products. Open Source is playing catch up, as usual.

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    1. Re:I'm sorry, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      STFU, troll.

  4. Re:Ballmer by tomhudson · · Score: 1, Troll
    The MVP initiative will be a big part of Microsoft's efforts to promote a sense of "community" among users and developers, connecting its own product developers with the users most in touch with product issues.

    Remember - this "community" is composed of developers who would NEVER share their source code with each other - it's the family jewels to them. How is Micro$hit^H^H^Hoft going to create a community when their "community" members whole business model if founded upon keeping secrets as the only competitive advantage?

  5. Re:I'm waiting for Steve by FIRESTORM_v1 · · Score: 1, Troll

    When they go to resusitate him with the latest and greatest defibrillator coupled with Windows CE (to allow doctors to diagnose, perscribe and treat efficiently of course) do you think that he will let them? Or better yet when the machine asks for his credit card to "swipe and activate the DRM (digital restraint managment)" feature do you think he'll cough up? hehe.

    After all if their product is so good, they should trust their life with it!
    (btw, this is meant as a joke only, no flamewar)

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  6. Re:Ridiculous by MoneyT · · Score: 2, Troll

    So far they have been outsmarting the linux developers. That's why Windows is still the dominate PC OS. Despite the fact that Linux is availible in every computer store, including CompUSA for less than Windows, and despite the fact that anyone can download it for free, windows still dominates. And that's because Windows has been outsmarting Linux. But not just with their own programmers, with the rest of the programmers in commercial development too. The big apps, the ones that people are buying, still aren't programmed for Linux. Untill Linux gets better commercial support as well as community support, M$ can continue to outsmart linux by sheer size alone.

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    T Money
    World Domination with a plastic spoon since 1984
  7. Ho! Ho! Ho! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Welcome, my young student-friends, to SLAPDASH THEATER!

    Today we will discuss

    • Open
      • Sores
      • Software


    ONCE UPON A TIME

    there was a man who liked computers.

    GIVE ME a computer that's easy to use and powerful!


    Said the man!

    A young, stinky gnulix-loving student came up to the man. "HERE! GNULIX IS THE BEST!" stammered gnulix-guy, drool seeping out of the corner of his mouth.

    An attractive, buxom woman then came up to the two. "Forget gnulix, use these products! They're good, not just free!"

    Computer man left with Windows Woman.

    So what's the moral?

    Windows gets you chicks.

    Gnulix just gets you
      • nowhere


    MEEPT!!!
  8. Do you actually swallow your own garbage? by PantherX · · Score: -1, Troll

    Microsoft is running scared? I don't see why. They clearly make a better product. If they didn't, I could play any game I wanted to on Linux, and I could use Linux without having to read the fucking (hard to understand, and poorly written) manual.

    Flame if you wish. I have no idea why I keep this site as my homepage, though.

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  9. WARNING: goatse.cx's girlfriend movie above by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
  10. Re:They don't develop, they buy by Exatron · · Score: 0, Troll
    Since so much of the code in Microsoft's products is developed by third party sources, it sometimes makes me wonder what the hell their army of programmers actually does all day long...

    Well, someone has to write all of the bugs and security holes.
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    "Decepticons FOREVER!!!" - Ravage
  11. Balmy by paiute · · Score: 0, Troll

    Ballmer couldn't outsmart open sores.

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  12. Re:Ridiculous TROLL. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Ahh moderation works sometimes. Hi Tevis Assfucker.
    Now you are a Windoze lover and a Mac Zealot, boy your fucking mom must have shit you out of her ass after being raped (she enjoyed it) by a fucking donkey.


    Tevis Money , I want you to fuck me in the ass please. I am dying to be anally accosted. I want to be ravaged like hog. I want you to dress like a farmer and make me oink like a pig. I want an ass reaming like no other. Tevis Money , I haven't had this kind of lust for you since the crazy college days. We used to butt fuck each other in the stalls. You always told me not to flush and preferred using my feces as apposed to real lubricant. I remember your chocolaty member, your manhood, draped in my feces. Man, Tevis Money , I remember. I was day dreaming, escaping into a nether world where we used to fornicate, and live in fornicatory bliss. You used to like to keep your tubes socks on to enhance they gay look. We were so flitty and light on our feet. I am so very confused these days. I have difficulty conceptualizing the time that was then in contrast to now. I mean, first you were a raging homosexual, now you wont look me in the eye because of this anime woman. I know that bitch is a transvestite, and you lust after my ass while you are being tentacle raped. You are closeting your homosexuality and denying your roots in my ass! Don't be fooled! TEVIS MONEY knows how to suck a dick. He may nibble, and bite, and pretend to be sheepish at first, but deep down this cock loving acolyte of shaft licks cock like a bar maid. I am destabilizing. The world is going dark to me. I have scintillating threads of motley thoughts; my ability to control my self evanesces away! I have only an adamantine desire to see your balloon knot once again, and to have you ravage mine! TEVIS MONEY - I NEED YOUR HOT MAN SEX NOW. This is your long lost butt buddy Joe, please come back.

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    My name is TEVIS MONEY and I'm here to Say
    I'm a Virgin and I'm gay
    I'm looking for some ass if you give me some
    If you don't mind making out with a bum
    Call the number on the screen! - I may look like a whimp
    But in bed I'm mean!

    TEVIS MONEY HERE here again, and I'm at the drums
    I'm looking for sex amongst the bums
    I have a lot of trouble with HTML
    I keep telling people smarter than me to go to hell
    I give anonymous blowjobs in the subway
    I'm saving for more video games and homoerotic anime

    COPYWRITE [SIC] Tevis Money and Gay Joe, from the album CREAM.

  13. Re:Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    (1/2)Musician + Frisbee Fan + Insanity^13 + Paintball player + Mac Freak^2 + Windows Hater + Linux Padawan = ME
    Half musician. That's like being half gay, which he claims he is. Only half gay.
    Frisbee Fan He likes flying rims. Reminds his half gay side of giving rim jobs.
    Insanity^13 Reads: Insanity to the thirteenth power. Insanity seem to me to be a clinical Boolean, either one isn't, or is by some definition. If anything, you could be some percentage of insane, but to raise insanity to a power, well, that just the droppings of a stupid mind. Like the mind of Tevis Bitch Money.
    Paintball player Except he has a cheesy Tippman Prolite or a rental gun with those gay seltzer CO2 charges. He also uses paintballs filled with Hepatitis, HIV, Blood, PUSS, Gonorrhea Syphilis Chlamydia (contributed from gay friends and family) and piss, shit and blood. He has yet to infect me, as I take my Nitrogen powered AutoMag 68 and fill that hole in his head with paint.
    Mac Freak^2 Mac Freak. Squared. That applies I guess. What I pay for my computer: (PC Price)^2. But he forgets to mention the appropriate performance; sqrt (PC Performance) = almost Mac.
    Windows Hater He hates Winderz but has been known to say that it is outsmartking Linux. Tevis the fuckhead likes to personify inanimate objects because he is Insane to the Thirteenth power. Dum dum duuuum.
    Linux Padawan This is similar to something a has been would say, but this dipshit is a Linux "never will be". He has never used it, has never used gcc, redone his own kernel, written anything in C, (or C++, Java, Lisp), can not use VI or Emacs, probably knows Pine and Pico real well which makes him Padawan. What a fucking gay term. This is the type of Fuck, Tevis, that Liked Jar Jar binks. He is the archetype of one who has helped George Puke-ass further defile Star Wars. Your fat sexless loser creed is not applicable to everyone, despite what you may believe.

    I also believe Tevis to be a boy scout. But his troopmaster calls him a boi scout. He know how to use a canoe paddle, but really likes them with the crock on the end cut off and the pole of the paddle inserted by his troop master. He got is LIFE badge by being a venue of GAY LIFE for his troopmaster, which he calls Cockmaster Joe.

    Tevis Money , I want you to fuck me in the ass please. I am dying to be anally accosted. I want to be ravaged like hog. I want you to dress like a farmer and make me oink like a pig. I want an ass reaming like no other. Tevis Money , I haven't had this kind of lust for you since the crazy college days. We used to butt fuck each other in the stalls. You always told me not to flush and preferred using my feces as apposed to real lubricant. I remember your chocolaty member, your manhood, draped in my feces. Man, Tevis Money , I remember. I was day dreaming, escaping into a nether world where we used to fornicate, and live in fornicatory bliss. You used to like to keep your tubes socks on to enhance they gay look. We were so flitty and light on our feet. I am so very confused these days. I have difficulty conceptualizing the time that was then in contrast to now. I mean, first you were a raging homosexual, now you wont look me in the eye because of this anime woman. I know that bitch is a transvestite, and you lust after my ass while you are being tentacle raped. You are closeting your homosexuality and denying your roots in my ass! Don't be fooled! TEVIS MONEY knows how to suck a dick. He may nibble, and bite, and pretend to be sheepish at first, but deep down this cock loving acolyte of shaft licks cock like a bar maid. I am destabilizing. The world is going dark to me. I have scintillating threads of motley thoughts; my ability to control my self evanesces away! I have only an adamantine desire to see your balloon knot once again, and to have you ravage mine! TEVIS MONEY - I NEED YOUR HOT MAN SEX NOW. This is your long lost butt buddy Joe, please come back.

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    * m o n e y * f u c k s * b u t t h o l e ! ! ! *

    My name is TEVIS MONEY and I'm here to Say
    I'm a Virgin and I'm gay
    I'm looking for some ass if you give me some
    If you don't mind making out with a bum
    Call the number on the screen! - I may look like a whimp
    But in bed I'm mean!

    TEVIS MONEY HERE here again, and I'm at the drums
    I'm looking for sex amongst the bums
    I have a lot of trouble with HTML
    I keep telling people smarter than me to go to hell
    I give anonymous blowjobs in the subway
    I'm saving for more video games and homoerotic anime

    COPYWRITE [SIC] Tevis Money and Gay Joe, from the album CREAM.

  14. Re:Ridiculous GMC, CR.org, etc benzene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    I agree with everything but Toyota. The Tundra is a great truck the powerful engine runs nice, Japanese cars and trucks last a lot longer with less maintenance. The GMC/Ford/Chevy zealot camp claim a lot of things, but hobbyists don't mind fixing the car all the time. Which is fine. Now there have been Jap trucks that down do tough things, and GMC and others go a lot bigger than a Tundra, but for anyone using a car or truck for home purposes and not buying Japanese quality, gas efficiency and maintainability has to be a hobbyist - why else would they want to pain, trouble, hassle and unreliability of an American car? (Most, some are good, and some German cars are okay. I've owned and driven several cars and trucks extensively, and if practicality is something you care about, Japanese cars are worth the premium, and even taking a hit on the horsepower and torque, although this is becoming less of a problem from Toyota and Nissan in particular.)

    Oh, and anyone who wants to call me a fool for saying this, stop by here first.

    If above link doesn't work, as it looks horrible, go here:

    1. http://www.consumerreports.org/main/home.jsp
    2. Go to the AUTOS tab and enter that section.
    3. Halfway down the left column there is a link to "Best and worst used cars Reliable models and those to avoid."

    If you don't buy a car in the top 20 list, you like pissing money away. I have owned several on the top and regularly driven those in the middle and some on the bottom. What you don't know is hurting you, putting you and your family at risk from mechanical failure, and is probably wasting more gas (I'm not a Truck hating dip-shit, BTW) I'm reproducing that page for your viewing pleasure here as well: (Note to parent, you cant say that CR.org is so full of shit, I mean, EVERY consumer GMC truck is listed in the bottom 20 cars, and every time I have rented a GMC it's a piece of shit with loose steering, how does one get a good experience with GMC, might I ask?) Used cars Best & worst

    The most reliable--and the most troublesome.
    Although cars tend to be much more reliable than they used to be, buying any used vehicle involves some degree of risk. You can limit that risk by buying a car with a proven track record of reliability.
    The exclusive reliability data in Consumer Reports can help guide you to models to look for and models you'd do well to avoid.
    CR Good Bets, below, are the best of the best. These have performed well in our road tests and have been consistently better than average in overall reliability.
    The list of Reliable used cars (available to subscribers only) can help you find specific vehicles that have proved to be above average in reliability. At the other end of the spectrum are the Reliability Risks (also below), vehicles that are especially dicey buys because they have exhibited several years of poor overall reliability. Used cars to avoid (available to subscribers only) lists all the models that have had below-average reliability.
    CR Good Bets
    Acura Integra, Acura RL, Acura TL, BMW 3-Series, Ford Escort, Ford F-150 (2WD), Geo/Chevrolet Prizm, Honda Accord, Honda Civic, Honda CR-V, Acura RL, Honda Odyssey, Infiniti G20, Infiniti I30, Isuzu Oasis, Lexus ES300, Lexus GS300/GS400, Lexus LS400, Lexus RX300, Lincoln Town Car, Mazda Millenia, Mazda MX-5 Miata, Mazda Protegé, Mercury Tracer, Honda Civic, Nissan Altima, Nissan Maxima, Nissan Pathfinder, Nissan Sentra, Saab 9-5, Saturn S-Series, Subaru Forester, Subaru Impreza, Subaru Legacy, Toyota 4Runner, Toyota Avalon, Toyota Camry, Toyota Camry Solara, Toyota Celica, Toyota Corolla, Toyota RAV4, Toyota Sienna, Toyota Tacoma, Toyota RAV4

    Reliability risks
    The models in this list are especially risky buys. Distilled from the list of Used cars to avoid, (available to subscribers only), they have exhibited multiple years of poor overall reliability. The list contains many twins and triplets, which are essentially similar models sold under different nameplates. Listed alphabetically.
    Cadillac Catera, Chevrolet Astro, Chevrolet Blazer, Chevrolet Camaro, Chevrolet Malibu, Chevrolet S-10 (V6, 4WD), Chevrolet Silverado 1500 (4WD), Chrysler LHS, New Yorker, Chrysler Town & Country ('94-97), Dodge Dakota (4WD), Dodge Durango, Dodge Grand Caravan ('94-97), Dodge Intrepid, Dodge Neon, Dodge Ram 1500 (4WD), Ford Windstar, GMC Jimmy, GMC S-15 Sonoma (V6, 4WD), GMC Safari, GMC Sierra 1500 (4WD), Jeep Grand Cherokee, Mercedes-Benz M-Class, Oldsmobile Bravada, Oldsmobile Cutlass, Plymouth Grand Voyager ('94-97), Plymouth Neon, Pontiac Firebird, Pontiac Grand Am, Volkswagen New Beetle, Volvo S70/V70 (AWD), Volvo S80

    Good Bets and Reliability Risks are compiled from overall-reliability data covering 1994 through 2001 models with better-than or much-worse-than-average reliability. We included only the models for which we have sufficient data for at least three model years. Models that were brand new in 2000 or 2001 do not appear on these lists. Problems with the engine, engine cooling, transmission, and drive system were weighted more heavily than other problems.