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Honest Job Sites?
theirpuppet asks: "I've hit every job site I can find, and it's pretty much impossible to find an honest one. Dice displays the same ads regardless of whether you want the last day's postings or the last week's. Monster sells your email addy to every spammer in the universe. The other ones lie about the amount of viable postings that they have, or they just rip them from Dice/Monster. Where are the honest ones, worth visiting? Yes I know the tricks, don't give your email addy out, apply to the companies directly. But it's not the point. Spending hours a day combing through the same ads over and over in search of one that might be new is ridiculous!"
What makes you think monster sells email addresses to spammers? I've been using the same email account on monster for three years. that account is dedicated specifically to monster.com usage, and i've NEVER gotten any spam in that in box.
I just landed a job after 7 months of unemployment, I found that most of the major sites (Monster.com, etc.) didn't really help, although I did get a few calls (Most were for jobs I wasn't even remotely qualified for). I live in Upstate New York and was lucky to find a local site http://www.davincitimes.com/ that concentrated on Engineering and Technical job listings and found my new job through them.
Local headhunters that specialize in specific career areas are helpful but you need to call them constantly so they have your name fresh in their heads. Another I found useful was the local newspaper web site that had career listings in just this area. While looking at specific employers web sites pay attention to where they say they post jobs, a lot of employers I looked at didn't post jobs on their web site, they used another "Career oriented" specialty site.
Good luck.
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Its getting pretty typical for hearhunters to do a bait and switch on the postings. Since September, 2001, its been getting worse and worse. Jobs are listed on Dice with outlandishly high salaries (for what they are), just so a headhunter can increase their resume-base. I've called on a number of those hours after they were posted, and I get "Oh, that position is no longer available, but what about this other horrible job?"
Its horribly dishonest, and I've had better results from a local paper every time. I've also seen pretty good results from net-temps, although I haven't looked there in months.
Good luck!
-Turkey
Try Flipdog
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That is the typical experience with recruiters and it is why they have such a bad name. I think it is all a misunderstanding. IMHO, you should think of a recruiter as an agent. You need to recruiter to find you a job because you don't have the time to deal with all the potential employers. The recruiter should only be willing to take you on if two things are true. First, they can make a decent amount of money on you. Second, the employer has very little hope of getting someone of your skill set without going through a recruiter.
None of the above helps people of average skill set in a down economy. Thus, if you are one of those people you sould avoid recruiters.
I've gotten three jobs, and innumerable interviews, from craigslist. Companies that not only know about it, but also post openings there, are companies that are likely ready to hire. Highly, highly recommended.
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I have a fair amount of experince with sites like these both from an employers and well as a prospective employees perspective. And in my opinion they really aren't worth the trouble.
From the employer perspective we get something like 400 resumes for every posting. 375 of them are useless. The people are severely underqualified, way over qualified, live outside of a reasonable commuting area, have unrealistic salary requirements etc. Because of the ease of submission, or perhaps because they can't read we get all of these useless resumes. That makes it harder for us to sort, and less likely that we'll be able to spot the best candidate before becoming fatigued
From the prospective employee side, everytime I send a resume I know that 500 other people, most of whom aren't qualified have sent resumes for the same job. OTOH whenever we run a newspaper only ad, or when I have replied to newspaper ads, we get a small number, of almost always qualified applicants, and as an applicant I almost always get a call back
I'd recommend using all of the traditional methods, friends, family, classified etc. And if you're going to send a resume, if they dont speccify email, send one printed, it gets far more attention
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FlipDog searches companies' own websites.
Pro: Stuff you'll never see anywhere else, even the local paper
Con: Their listings are usually a few days or a week old so in today's market they're often already filled!
Pro: No headhunters!
Con: No headhunters...
Pro: No spam!
Con: Their interface is a little clumsy and sometimes the search bot doesn't grab the ad correctly. It's easy enough to just click directly to the originating site though.
Disclaimer: I'm not associated with the company in any way.
"It was a summer's tale: Just a boy, his Linux, and a head full of dreams..."
In a month
Number of interviews from local newspaper ads - 9
+ Number of interviews from online ads - 0
= Never looking at online ads again.
It has become an annoyingly common fact that the online resources, once revolutionary and powerful are now junk. The jobs are always filled, and that is the 1 in 1000 submittals that get a response. The only way to move jobs now is through local papers and personal networking (in my area at least).
Just my 2/100 of a dollar.
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