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Red Hat 8.0 Released
I_am_Rambi writes "RedHat has released their latest OS, 8.0. Here is Red Hat's ftp site for download and some mirrors. If you need help there's a Howto." Jeet81 adds: "Red Hat is out with a new release, Red Hat 8.0. Looks like Red Hat is moving towards the windows XP style using its new Bluecurve graphical interface (the new default email client 'Ximian Evolution' looks a lot like MS Outlook)." So what's the verdict on Null or Bluecurve or whatever it's called? Good idea, bad idea?
I can't prove it but I think whoever designed the new Redhat UI appears to have copied much of the work I have done on the OBOS GUI (hopefully to be used in the R2 release), the only real differences being the tabbed titlebar and repositioning of some of the widgets. Not only did they appear to have copied my work, they didn't do a very good job of it. As with many other *nix GUIs, Redhat overdid the look without truly innovating in the functionality department. Paint a turd and it's still a turd, it's just a different color.
Redhat's not linux?
I don't know what it's like on the planet where you are from, but over here the kernel is Linux, and the progams around it are written by the guys at GNU.. together they become GNU/Linux
Don't give me any of that "RedHat is Linux' Microsoft"-crap, RedHat's doing a great job.
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Microsoft has delayed the wide usage of a GUI by half a decade (GUIs were already common on everything but PCs in the late 80's) and delayed the wide usage of the Internet by a similar time (Microsoft tried to push their own proprietary MSN in the early 90's).
Yet everytime I hear how Microsoft has brought computers to the masses and similar complete and utter nonsense.
Now let's look at RedHat:
Everywhere in the world, especially in Europe, Linux has already made inroads on the desktop.
Only in the USA, where a GNOME-centric distribution is dominant, Linux is pretty nonexistant on the desktop.
(Look at Usenet statistics, dammit! On non-technical usegroups the Linux-share is typically 3-4 times higher in European usegroups.)
I'm no big fan of RedHat's new interface, but I have not doubt that sooner or later they will be able to put out some usable default interface. (Yes, I do know that RedHat shipped KDE, but it was not the default and the newbie will always use the default which is why defaults are important)
What really bothers me is that RedHat will get credit for bringing Linux to the masses while in reality they have done everything to delay mass adoption.
And the formatting was done incorrectly.
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WHAT? Wood is to a fruit.. Yummy and nutritious.
(so go the rantings of a mad man).
Sorry I had to say that. Your comment was a great analogy IMHO.
I think there are three sides to this coin that intregue me.
The first is a blatant need to have or respond to an outside influence making waves within the community. So many people seem to need a bad guy in order to define the good.
Our Second side is: I personaly have not felt comfortable with some of the security based decisions RH has made in the past and that puts them in the suspect list at this time, however I do feel they are still a Linux distrobution. Maby Red Hat is not the uber distrobution so many media personalities tout, but they are just as any distrobution, contributors in great mass to the open source community.
The third side to this oddly shaped coin is a lack of definition. What truely constitutes Linux? For so many people it is an open free market, an oportunity to jump into development without fear of reprisal, or a chance to use a realy cool looking extremely customizable interface on top of a common set of functional core tools. Either way the point im making is that an opinion is very relative. While you "correct" another person, perhaps we should more consider a debate on the spacific point you wish to correct in order to allow the "lesson" to unfold. I know this sounds contrary or argumentative and even though I personaly aggree with your assessment of Red Hat as a proven Linux Distrobution. I feel your design to correct the original poster did not come from an understanding of what context the poster was coming from.
Sorry bout the heavy wordage. I do believe to much thought went into my response.. Where is my ritalin.
Hesperant J ieger
The Rainworks Project