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The Perl Journal On The Ropes

rochlin writes "Looks like The Perl Journal might not make it up for air after all. This blurb is on their website. 'Time is running short and we need your help if The Perl Journal is to get another chance at being the real deal. As of a couple of minutes ago, we only have 881 subscriptions and the deadline is fast approaching. Please subscribe now. It only costs 3 cents per day to get the best Perl coverage anywhere.'" They need 3,000 subscribers to move forward.

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  1. Good job by qurob · · Score: -1, Troll


    How can I subscribe when I can't access their page to sign up?!

  2. perl suxor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    if it's such a great language, there wouldn't be a problem winning converts. perl is suffering from a deflation from extreme unreasonable hype.

    1. Re:perl suxor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Why is this a troll? It's true. Perl is a dead language, and for good reason.

  3. Perl Is Dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I'm sorry, but Perl is dead. Technology moves on...

    1. Re:Perl Is Dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Why is this a troll? The reason that the Perl mag died is the language died. Get a grip! To state the truth is not a troll.

  4. Let the damn camel die already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    If a language is not popular enough to generate enough subscriptions - that's life. You don't see me worried cause Ruby Journal is in the throws of death do you.

  5. Perl6 is a mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    I've been using perl pretty much constantly since the Pink Camel, and believe me, Perl 5 is an extremely good language for quick scripting things. That's what it was designed for. Sure, you can do big projects in it, but it's not exactly ideal. Recently I've started using Ruby as well, and I intend to move my department over to it instead of wasting time with Perl 6.

    One of the goals of Perl 6 is to make non-trivial projects possible. That's good. The way it's being done is bad. Perl was once a lightweight, extremely flexible language. Now it's become a huge ugly monster. People wanted OO, so a nasty hack was bolted on top to allow some semblance of it. Now this nasty hack is being expanded. Sure, the code's different, but the basic form is the same. Kludge upon kludge upon kludge; I'd much rather have a nice, clean, pure language (and not one with loads of irritating whitespace thank you very much).

    The same goes for the syntax. All the switching between $, @ and % is really irritating (ask a newbie how to get at the length of the keys array of a hash inside a hash, for example), and the changes proposed for 6 are just making this worse -- it seems that Larry, in his infinite wisdom, wants to prefix every data type with a different hard-to-type character. Perl was only designed for the three data types, and adding more is a mess.

    Perl 6 is a complete rewrite, but it keeps all the mess which has accumulated over the previous versions. This is not good. Sure, my const int $var = 27; may look neat (in the same way that, say, Pascal does), but $var isn't entirely constant, or entirely an integer, it's just a hack which makes it sort of behave like one. The whole thing is an exercise in pseudo-computer science masturbation with little real purpose except to please the managers who dislike the one thing that makes Perl special.

    On a similar note is regexes. I'm an avid fan of regular expressions simply because a nondeterministic finite automata is far more flexible than linear code. However, Larry must have been smoking that cheap $2 crack when he wrote this. Does he want Perl 6 to be flex or something?

    I won't be going on to use 6. It's a nice idea, but it's completely unnecessary. It won't make large projects any easier to manage (the language is still, at heart, an almighty hack -- an impressive one, but still a hack). It won't make OO any cleaner. It won't make development any faster. To put it bluntly, Perl scripts will still look less beautiful than our friend Mr Goatse. I'd prefer to use a language which has always been pure synthesis of science and engineering, not some half-baked imposter.

    Perl 6 will be nice, but I'm guessing it will be the end of Perl. It can't do what it wants to do whilst still being based upon a nasty mess. There are now other options, which provide all of Perl's power and none of the mess. Sorry, but *BSD^H^H^H^H Perl is dying. Larry is buggering it up the ass without lubricants, just like Shoeboy is doing to Larry's daughter.

  6. Goddamn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Advertize your shitty journal somwhere else.

    Dirty hippies.

  7. There is still alot of Perl to go around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll


    Like the perl necklace I left on your mom last night.

  8. Larry Wall should disappear from our lives... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    ...along with perl, the damned stupid language...

  9. IF PERL DIDN'T SUCK MAYBE :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    real coders don't write in line noise

  10. Why is this being posted on slashdot? by CathedralRulz · · Score: 0, Troll

    Not like anyone here actually pays for content. Unless the net is down and Joe Slashdot has rent his weekend hobby (pr0n) from Blockbuster.

  11. Die Perl die! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Perl sucks... death to all Perl hackers!