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New Frozen World Found Beyond Pluto

theBrownfury writes "BBC, Sydney Herald, and the Indian Express are reporting a new object, which is one-tenth the diameter of the Earth, and lies well beyond Pluto in an area of the Solar System known as the Kuiper Belt. The new world, which has been dubbed Quaoar, is about 1,280 kilometres (800 miles) across. Quaoar orbits the sun ever 288 years and is 1250 Km wide, about the size of all the asteroids combined. This discovery is being hailed as the most important solar system discovery in the past 72 years."

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  1. Is it really? by joyoflinux · · Score: 5, Informative

    This article at TheAge disputes whether this object is really a planet...

    1. Re:Is it really? by Pedrito · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah, they're still trying to decided if Pluto is a planet. Really, though, it's a matter of semantics. Either way, it's a big rock that circles the sun. That can be said about a few of the other planets.

      It's still a cool discovery.

  2. Re:Aw shucks by PD · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's pronounced Qwa O Wahr. Three syllables.

  3. Re:Pluto Not A Planet? by Ektanoor · · Score: 4, Informative

    It may make sense. Some good years ago, Dr. Van Flandern published several weird ideas about our solar system. He mentioned that some weirdnesses seen on certain asteroids pointed to the fact that they could have satellites. He was demonished for this theory but Galileo probe did find such an asteroid in its way to Jupiter. Sincerly, Pluto is too big for an asteroid and too small for a true planet. But still no one real could classify the real edge between planets and small bodies... So I wouldn't be admired to see this new object also bouncing between both terms.

    For UFO manhunters/bashers: note that VF was once the director of the U.S. Naval Astronomy, and one of the guys who help find Charon. Since Richard Hoagland started to search for hyperpyramids in the closet, he suffered some bad publicity, but still, his researches are quite important because they are in the edge of Science and some have had positive results recently.

  4. Discoverer's home page URL by cje · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a link to the Quaoar FAQ, maintained by Chad Truijillo, one of the planet's co-discoverers. There's a lot of cool stuff there, including the discovery images (animated so you can see it moving across the star field), the Hubble images, information about the orbit, etc.

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  5. Re:Pluto Not A Planet? by kalidasa · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pluto is the threshold case. At the moment, it seems to be the conventional wisdom that anything found that's larger than Pluto will have to be considered for planet status, and anything smaller for planetoid/asteroid/comet status. Quaoar would thus not be a planet. But who knows? The important thing is that a solar system can have these kinds of objects:
    Stars (Sun)
    Brown dwarfs (none known in our system)
    Gas giants (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune)
    Terrestrial planets (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars)
    Asteroids (Ceres, Vesta, Pallas, etc.)
    Kuiper-like objects (Pluto, Quoaoar, maybe Chiron)
    Comets (maybe Chiron, Halley, etc.)
    Terrestrial moons (the Moon, Io, Europa, Titan, Iapetus)
    Kuiper-like-object-like moons (Charon, maybe Triton)
    Asteroid-like moons (Phobos, Deimos, Amalthea)
    Dust lanes and planetary rings
    Protostars, protoplanets, protoplanetary disks
    etc.

    As you can see, the star/planet/asteroid/comet/moon classification isn't quite detailed enough for what we now know.

  6. Re:The traditional name for Sol's 10th planet by Rand+Race · · Score: 4, Informative
    It's taken:

    399 Persephone

    This main belt asteroid is approx 52 km in diameter and was discoveredby M Wolf at Heidelberg in 1895. This first determination of the spin period was made from 6 nights ofobservations (by Col Bembrick) over a time span of 6 weeks, representing 58 rotations of the asteroid.The large amplitude of the light curve approx 0.4 magnitudes implies a considerable irregularity in theshape of this asteroid.


    Personally I would think Minerva would be a better fit being a Roman goddess, but that's an asteroid too.

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  7. A few short facts about Quaoar by Jugalator · · Score: 5, Informative

    - Around half the size of Pluto (and there's been dispute if Pluto is a planet).

    - 5% of the sky was looked at before finding Quaoar, so there might very well be a dozen more Quaoar-sized "planets" in the Kupier belt. Even Pluto-sized planets might be out there.

    - Water, methane, methanol, and carbon dioxide ice seem to exist on Quaoar.

    - Quaoar's name isn't decided yet and its designation is 2002 LM60 until a name is officially decided upon in a few months.

    - Quaoar is pronounced "kwah-o-wahr" and is the name of a great force of creation among the Tongva people.

    - Quaoar is 42 AU from Earth, while Pluto and Neptune are both 30 AU from Earth. 1 Astronomical Unit = One "Sun to Earth" distance.

    - If standing on Quaoar, what one would see at the Sun (and the Earth) would be what happened 5 hours ago, since light takes 5 hours to travel to Quaoar.

    - A Space Shuttle would need 25 years to travel to Quaoar.

    - Google News about Quaoar.

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