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Questions Continue About The KDE League

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the stuff-to-read dept.

OrangeSpyderMan writes "Here is a further piece by Dennis E. Powell ("DEP"), the other is an editorial, submitted simply by "staff". They make interesting reading, and add a lot of info to the story previously reported Of particular insterest is an apparent clarification of the tax status of the league, which, if anything, serves to complicate a little further the true role of the league, as the editorial goes on to explain. Basically the "staff" appear to wonder if it wouldn't have been more productive to give the $170,000 that the League appears to have collected (or be owed) directly to the KDE project."

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  1. The what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    KDE League? Is that like the Premier League, or the Nationwide League? Is KDE going to be relagated to the Screwfix for fanancial irregularities?

  2. I thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Open source was free, so they didn't need money.

  3. Yeah, so what else is new? by ekrout · · Score: -1, Troll

    The aforementioned article mentions that the KDE League folks totally forgot to file any financial tax forms at all in the state of Delaware. They probably assumed that since Delaware has no state sales tax that it also didn't keep track of corporate/personal incomes.

    This just goes to show that most "contributors" to Open Source and Free Software have little knowledge of important real-world skills beyond a grasp of how to write a binary search routine in C/C++.

    Further along these lines, why is it that people expect "Open" projects to feature intuitive and aesthetically-pleasing user interfaces? After all, when a long-bearded steel worker who wears the same dirty jeans and flannel shirt every day is responsible for how your "Enterprise" Open Source program looks and feels, it's easy to see why you're screwed.

    So, to the KDE folks: I enjoy your products (they're certainly better than anything Ximian or GNOME have to offer), but a half-dozen lazy Europeans who know C++ are in charge of running a corporation, there are bound to be a ton of financial-/tax-related issues that go unchecked.

    Get your act together!

    * This post in honor of tps12, 1978-2002

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  4. You can suck my Monkey ass COMMANDER TAKE-OUT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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    No kudos for you! (Score:0, Offtopic)
    by ekrout on Tuesday October 08, @08:29AM (#4409057)
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    They make interesting reading, and add a lot of info to the story previously reported Of particular insterest is an apparent clarification of the tax status of the league, which, if anything, serves to complicate a little further the true role of the league, as the editorial goes on to explain.
    Someone didn't utilize KDE Office's grammar check utility before they submitted news to Slashdot!
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    Re:No kudos for you! by joyoflinux (Score:1) Tuesday October 08, @08:31AM

    How did they get the money? (Score:3, Interesting)
    by joyoflinux (thejoyoflinuxNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Tuesday October 08, @08:33AM (#4409078)
    (User #522023 Info)
    How did the KDE League come up with $170,000? Donations? Something else?

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    Re:How did they get the money? Tuesday October 08, @08:42AM
    Re:How did they get the money? by Ctrl-Z (Score:2) Tuesday October 08, @09:02AM

    Deps original article re: KDE, Israel + Palestine (Score:2, Informative)
    by Nailer on Tuesday October 08, @08:39AM (#4409097)
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    Can be seen here [linuxandmain.com].

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    Re:Deps original article re: KDE, Israel + Palesti by gowen (Score:1) Tuesday October 08, @08:48AM
    Re:Deps original article re: KDE, Israel + Palesti by 10Ghz (Score:2) Tuesday October 08, @08:59AM

    Sad (Score:3, Insightful)
    by e8johan on Tuesday October 08, @08:40AM (#4409102)
    (User #605347 Info | http://www.etek.chalmers.se/~e8johan)
    It is sad that the KDE project has to be associated with such business practice. I feel that this can bring down the credibility for the project, which is not only bad for KDE, but for the entire open source movement.

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    Re:Sad by Draoi (Score:2) Tuesday October 08, @08:54AM

    Black Eye.... (Score:3, Interesting)
    by Tsali on Tuesday October 08, @08:40AM (#4409106)
    (User #594389 Info)
    People might misread this and think lump KDE with this corporation. Not good.

    Fortunately, I don't think this will hit the mainstream media for a number of reasons - a) $170,000 is nothing compared to other companies and b) KDE/Gnome are largely unknown by the common Windows-using public.

    Hopefully this will just be an ugly incident that gets resolved and forgotten.

    It sounds like the KDE league needs to fess up and give back to the community.
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    Yeah, so what else is new? (Score:1, Troll)
    by ekrout on Tuesday October 08, @08:41AM (#4409110)
    (User #139379 Info | http://www.google.com/search?q=tps12)
    The aforementioned article mentions that the KDE League folks totally forgot to file any financial tax forms at all in the state of Delaware. They probably assumed that since Delaware has no state sales tax that it also didn't keep track of corporate/personal incomes.

    This just goes to show that most "contributors" to Open Source and Free Software have little knowledge of important real-world skills beyond a grasp of how to write a binary search routine in C/C++.

    Further along these lines, why is it that people expect "Open" projects to feature intuitive and aesthetically-pleasing user interfaces? After all, when a long-bearded steel worker who wears the same dirty jeans and flannel shirt every day is responsible for how your "Enterprise" Open Source program looks and feels, it's easy to see why you're screwed.

    So, to the KDE folks: I enjoy your products (they're certainly better than anything Ximian or GNOME have to offer), but a half-dozen lazy Europeans who know C++ are in charge of running a corporation, there are bound to be a ton of financial-/tax-related issues that go unchecked.

    Get your act together!

    * This post in honor of tps12 [slashdot.org], 1978-2002
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    Re:Yeah, so what else is new? Tuesday October 08, @08:44AM
    Re:Yeah, so what else is new? Tuesday October 08, @08:45AM
    Re:Yeah, so what else is new? Tuesday October 08, @08:48AM

    IANAL (Score:3, Funny)
    by CaptainAlbert (ben,jones&t-modus,nec,co,uk) on Tuesday October 08, @08:45AM (#4409118)
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    Every article like this I read makes me happier and happier that IANAL. Can you image having to deal with that kind of stuff every day? Eeeeew. It's worse than Prolog! >:-o

    If I ever *do* become a lawyer for some reason, someone please put me out of my misery?
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    Oh dear! Tuesday October 08, @08:50AM
    Re:Oh dear! Tuesday October 08, @08:53AM

    Andreas Pour of the League Responded (Score:3, Informative)
    by BRock97 (rockwood@rockhouse.org_SPAMFREE) on Tuesday October 08, @08:56AM (#4409154)
    (User #17460 Info | http://www.rockhouse.org/)
    Just for the record, Andreas Pour has responded to DEP's article with an email that was posted over on Linuxtoday.com. The response can be found here [linuxtoday.com]. At least, that is the only place I have read it....
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    But then the League... (Score:2)
    by tshoppa on Tuesday October 08, @09:02AM (#4409177)
    (User #513863 Info)
    Basically the "staff" appear to wonder if it wouldn't have been more productive to give the $170,000 that the League appears to have collected (or be owed) directly to the KDE project."
    But then the League wouldn't have that cool metallic headquarters downtown headquarters from which they fight crime.

    Oh, wait, that was the Justice League [cartoonnetwork.com].

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  5. Why am I not fucking surprised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    This is EXACTLY why I use GNOME. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, KDE sucks.
    Use Gnome, you heathen hippies!