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Discarded Cell Phones

psychictv points to a NYT story about discarded cell phones as an environmental hazard. The study mentioned in the article is available online. Every year or so we run a story on paper, disposable cell phones but even these would generate a fair amount of waste.

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  1. What about computers? by dubious9 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's nice to know that we have an overproduction/disposal problem with cell phones, but aren't the pounds and pounds of lead in monitors and cases much more of a hazard?

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  2. Providers partly at fault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have 3 used cell phones sitting at home. Why? Everytime I have changed service providers I was REQUIRED to buy a new phone. In fact the phone I actively use now it the exact same model as my previous phone. My current provider said it was "not possible" to reprogram the phone to work on their network. He had no answer as to how the charities are able to reprogram them for battered women's shelters.

    Until the providers allow cell phones to change networks, the useless ones will keep piling up!

    Sign me "Peeved at the artificial waste!"

    1. Re:Providers partly at fault by Chaltek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Battered women's shelters don't need to reprogram the phones to work, 911 calls will go through without any service plan.

      The different providers use protocols which are fundamentally incompatible (TDMA, CDMA, now GSM.. etc.) and often different frequencies as well, so converting old phones would require new hardware, which is cost prohibitive.

      Check the model numbers, you probably don't have the exact same model. The way is works, at least with Nokia phones is you can have the first 2 digits the same for the series, and the last 2 different and provider specific. e.g. 82xx series has 8260 for ATT, 8290 for Verizon, and so on.

      The real problem is too many competing protocols (American Individuality at work :-) but that is slowly changing. ATT at least is converting to the worldwide GSM standard so my new T68i will work with a European provider should I decide to move. Once the rest of the American companies switch as well, your problem will be solved. One phone, any provider.

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  3. Design & Manufacturing Are Also To Blame by lhbtubajon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Over the years, the wireless phone industry has developed a culture of disposability. This is not simply the latest phone fashions or the newest technology. It is also a question of design and manufacturing.

    Wireless phone makers design their products with the idea that they won't last more than a year or so. Is it any wonder that we're hearing about environmental issues with that sort of disposable attitude?

  4. Use the phone longer by taleman · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Make the phones more durable. Using an expensive
    phone for 18 months only and then throwing it away is silly. My mobile phone is from year 1998, I still use it and the newer models do not offer anything that I need.

  5. Trashy Story by mugnyte · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This may be a simple case of equating new technology with waste, as opponents are apt to do. The truth is, we generate waste everywhere, doing everything.. I don't know of any effect from the waste that will cause governments to mandate producing less or recycling more. The US population seems to put up with any quality of air or water given them.

    Eventually, someone must propose money-based incentives for production using waste materials. This is the only way to bootstrap such commerce. We had the aluminum can/glass/motor oil progress 20 years ago. It may be time for more, but who's picking up the bill?

    Throw the phones in the garbage and solve the garbage problem.

  6. Blame the wireless companies by Eric+Seppanen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the wireless companies are going to sell phones that won't work with any other service provider, it should be their problem when all these crippled phones end up in landfills.

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  7. US specific problem? by jeroen94704 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the US, each provider insists on having their own network and poviding their own phones. This severely aggravates the problem, since, as another person pointed out, people get a new phone every time they switch plans/providers. I've gone through 3 phones in 2 years, while I would have been happy keeping the first one. This is less of an issue in Europe (At least in the Netherlands) where providers use standard phones that accept a small SIM-card with the relevant data on it. When you switch providers, just slide the new SIM-card into your old phone and you're all set. When you want to upgrade, slide your SIM-card in a new phone and you're set.

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  8. The key paragraph by NearlyHeadless · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That is starting to add up to a huge amount of waste, says Inform, an environmental organization that issued a report this year on old phones.The Environmental Protection Agency helped finance the study.

    These people get paid to find problems, whether they are significant or not. If you think cellphones are a significant problem, I dare you to go to a landfill sometime and try to find just one cellphone.


    Nor are the chemicals in them a significant danger. Computer monitors, yes, contain a lot of lead. But all these other stories about the dangers of electronic waste are bullshit scare stories.

  9. Donate your phones to the poor starving kids by ad0gg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I donate my old phones to the poor starving kids of the world.

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  10. 80's by eamber · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Imagine the waste from all those big cel phones from the 80's.

  11. Re:Do Something about It For Free by joshsisk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or even better, help them build an infrastructure so they can support themselves.