Posted by
timothy
on from the don't-miss-an-episode-of-%83hd1nzz dept.
karrde writes "CNet (and others) is reporting that: 'Microsoft has bowed to consumer pressure and pulled back from a controversial plan that would have encrypted TV shows recorded on forthcoming digital media PCs.' One could hope that this will be the first many decisions in this direction."
But DVI will do this
by
Doppler00
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· Score: 5, Interesting
I recently read an article explaining how the DVI interface works and how they plan on implementing an encryption system in future versions. Essentially, the HDTV will have an encryption key key and the output device will have a key. This should (in theory) completly prevent someone from copying the digital signal with another device. What does this mean for people who currently own HDTV's? They may not be compatible with new signals and thus you will be required to buy a new one or have to use a lower quality analog signal. They media and electronics industries don't need Microsoft to restrict fair use rights.
I'm not saying this is a good thing, it's just where the industry is headed.
Cracks are forming in DRM finally
by
Arcturax
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· Score: 5, Interesting
It is good to see "digital rights massacre" plans starting to fall apart. First several high profile bills aimed to restore fair use and reign in the DMCA and now this.
I think that those with power in the industry are finally starting to see that the natives are indeed getting restless over this and realizing that they are headed for some extremely major consumer backlash if they press ahead with current DRM proposals.
Of course, it is not time to party just yet as the MPAA and RIAA have yet to acknowledge the clue stick which everyone and their brother has been whacking them with for the past 4 years, but if Microsoft and some members of Congress are starting to see the light, then anything is possible.
Once campaign finance reform kicks in and if voters give the Senetors and Reps from Disney/MPAA/RIAA the smackdown at the polls they so richly deserve, we might see the pendulum swing back our way again in the next 3-5 years.
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--Won't that be grand? Computers and the programs will start thinking and the people will stop. - Dr. Walter Gibbs
Not 100% correct
by
BagOBones
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· Score: 5, Interesting
According to http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10 738,2884933,00.html MS will still lock the content if the recorder picksup the special copyprotection marker in the broadcast... So as soon as the content providers turn this on have fun sitting infrunt of your multimeda PC watching your shows.
-- EA David Gardner -"... but the consumers have proven that actually what they want is fun."
The follow-up question: Will Palladium fail?
by
Jugalator
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An interesting newsgroup thread over at Google News.
It's a question I've been asking myself. I mean, how will Microsoft succeed with their plans? Which manufacturer wish to be the first to have a huge disadvantage by supplying the initial Palladium-supporting hardware? How can we be sure that the manufacturers are simply going to release hardware supporting Palladium? Won't it just work like in the past instead, where mp3 players made it easier for piracy and DVD players often can be made region free, by a simple flip of a jumper? Where CD-burners often support low-level duplication and overburning they don't *need* to support, but manufacturers *know* that they're more likely to sell if their drive support CloneCD and similar programs that's used in 9 cases out of 10 for piracy. They never admit it, but everyone knows it.
How will Palladium suddenly change this philosophy of the manufacters? Won't they be tempted to go the "dirty" path (of course not officially; they'll just "not include Palladium support") by looking into the enormous public interest that will arise in hardware not supporting hardware copy protections?
-- Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
Now all we need is for MS to back off and rewrite their EULAs so they don't have the power to just mosey in, make changes to your system, and never tell you a thing.
They rewrote the WMP 6.4 and 7.1 security update EULA to remove the onerous "root access" provision.
Digital Rights Management. Content providers are using the digital rights management technology contained in the applicable OS Product ("DRM") to protect the integrity of their content ("Secure Content") so that their intellectual property, including copyright, in such content is not misappropriated. Portions of the applicable OS Product and third party applications such as media players use DRM to play Secure Content ("DRM Software"). If the DRM Software's security has been compromised, owners of Secure Content ("Secure Content Owners") may request that Microsoft revoke the DRM Software's right to copy, display and/or play Secure Content. Revocation does not alter the DRM Software's ability to play unprotected content. A list of revoked DRM Software is sent to your computer whenever you download a license for Secure Content from the Internet. YOU THEREFORE AGREE THAT MICROSOFT MAY, IN CONJUNCTION WITH SUCH LICENSE, ALSO DOWNLOAD REVOCATION LISTS ONTO YOUR COMPUTER ON BEHALF OF SECURE CONTENT OWNERS. Microsoft will not retrieve any personally identifiable information, or any other information, from your computer by downloading such revocation lists. Secure Content Owners may also require you to upgrade some of the DRM components in the applicable OS Product ("DRM Upgrades") before accessing their content. When you attempt to play such content, Microsoft DRM Software will notify you that a DRM Upgrade is required and then ask for your consent before the DRM Upgrade is downloaded. Third party DRM Software may do the same. If you decline the upgrade, you will not be able to access content that requires the DRM Upgrade; however, you will still be able to access unprotected content and Secure Content that does not require the upgrade.
-- Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
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I recently read an article explaining how the DVI interface works and how they plan on implementing an encryption system in future versions. Essentially, the HDTV will have an encryption key key and the output device will have a key. This should (in theory) completly prevent someone from copying the digital signal with another device. What does this mean for people who currently own HDTV's? They may not be compatible with new signals and thus you will be required to buy a new one or have to use a lower quality analog signal. They media and electronics industries don't need Microsoft to restrict fair use rights.
I'm not saying this is a good thing, it's just where the industry is headed.
It is good to see "digital rights massacre" plans starting to fall apart. First several high profile bills aimed to restore fair use and reign in the DMCA and now this.
I think that those with power in the industry are finally starting to see that the natives are indeed getting restless over this and realizing that they are headed for some extremely major consumer backlash if they press ahead with current DRM proposals.
Of course, it is not time to party just yet as the MPAA and RIAA have yet to acknowledge the clue stick which everyone and their brother has been whacking them with for the past 4 years, but if Microsoft and some members of Congress are starting to see the light, then anything is possible.
Once campaign finance reform kicks in and if voters give the Senetors and Reps from Disney/MPAA/RIAA the smackdown at the polls they so richly deserve, we might see the pendulum swing back our way again in the next 3-5 years.
--Won't that be grand? Computers and the programs will start thinking and the people will stop. - Dr. Walter Gibbs
According to http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10 738,2884933,00.html MS will still lock the content if the recorder picksup the special copyprotection marker in the broadcast... So as soon as the content providers turn this on have fun sitting infrunt of your multimeda PC watching your shows.
EA David Gardner -"... but the consumers have proven that actually what they want is fun."
Will the market really tolerate Palladium?
An interesting newsgroup thread over at Google News.
It's a question I've been asking myself. I mean, how will Microsoft succeed with their plans? Which manufacturer wish to be the first to have a huge disadvantage by supplying the initial Palladium-supporting hardware? How can we be sure that the manufacturers are simply going to release hardware supporting Palladium? Won't it just work like in the past instead, where mp3 players made it easier for piracy and DVD players often can be made region free, by a simple flip of a jumper? Where CD-burners often support low-level duplication and overburning they don't *need* to support, but manufacturers *know* that they're more likely to sell if their drive support CloneCD and similar programs that's used in 9 cases out of 10 for piracy. They never admit it, but everyone knows it.
How will Palladium suddenly change this philosophy of the manufacters? Won't they be tempted to go the "dirty" path (of course not officially; they'll just "not include Palladium support") by looking into the enormous public interest that will arise in hardware not supporting hardware copy protections?
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
They rewrote the WMP 6.4 and 7.1 security update EULA to remove the onerous "root access" provision.
Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.